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Unreal Payouts in WCOOP #1

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  1. MG2003 MG2003 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 4:59am)

    WCOOP #1 has a prizepool of almost $1.5M.

    10th place gets $3,752 (only $1k more than 54th place)

    7th-9th place gets $9,021 (almost 2.5x 10th place)

    5th place gets $49,075 (13 times 10th place money)

    Now I dont think a player finishing in 9th place performed too much better than that player who finished in 10th place.

    I understand that this is a 6handed tourney, but if you beat 7200 players and finish in 10th place and only receive $3k from the $1,443,400 prize pool, this is a complete joke.

    What do you guys think?

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  2. kevin070 kevin070 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 5:01am) in reply to MG2003

    Don't worry I'm sure stars can find a way to make payouts worse for everyone.
  3. wandigo wandigo is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 5:01am) in reply to MG2003

    How about the fact that there's a $150 difference between 12th & 13th-18th?

    LOL stars really outdoing yourself for this wcoop. bravo
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  4. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 5:13am) in reply to MG2003

    the payouts are very similar to the sunday mill. why are people complaining? the buy in is 215 dollars lol. i know thats a big buy in for online, but seriously, why do people act with a sense of entitlement to be set for life after finishing 10th in a 200 dollar tournament? if you dont like the payout, simply dont play, because its never gonna be changed enough to satisfy all players. but since stars will always try and cater to donkies and squeezers to keep the poker economy alive, you wont be seeing major changes to the payout structure
  5. OGPokerman OGPokerman is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 5:13am) in reply to wandigo

    i agree..those bubbles are insane..7th place pretty much lost a 80k hand cuz if they deal they all get 90k etc..all those bubbles were insane but went quick suprisingly

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  6. x walks x x walks x is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 5:31am) in reply to OGPokerman

    UNSURE WHO IS WAS THAT BUBBLED THE FT

    got all in with KK vs TT and KK lost

    Nows thats a 14k bad beat!!!!
  7. JRoth15 JRoth15 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 5:34am) in reply to x walks x

    it was doubledave--from P5s...sick ass beat
  8. mesaplayeraz mesaplayeraz is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 6:18am) in reply to downbylaw11

     
    Originally Posted by downbylaw11 View Post

    the payouts are very similar to the sunday mill. why are people complaining? the buy in is 215 dollars lol. i know thats a big buy in for online, but seriously, why do people act with a sense of entitlement to be set for life after finishing 10th in a 200 dollar tournament? if you dont like the payout, simply dont play, because its never gonna be changed enough to satisfy all players. but since stars will always try and cater to donkies and squeezers to keep the poker economy alive, you wont be seeing major changes to the payout structure

    You just dont get it do you?
  9. riversidejoe riversidejoe is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 6:31am) in reply to mesaplayeraz

    I can't believe more people don't notice this. I am like everyone beyond excited about the WCOOP....

    Now its here and I see you can play for 15 hours get 7th and get only 9k or even better get 10th and get 3k?? When there is close to 8000 players...

    Some of you might rational that making 3000 in 14 hours is more than most anyone in other professions make, but thats not a fair argument imo...

    Whatever, bottom line is this series got a little unsexy after the first night. Theres plenty of degens willing to dust off nightly 15 hour session but I guess I'm just not down for it...
     
  10. cliff819 cliff819 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 7:41am) in reply to riversidejoe

    The entire point is that the final table should mean something big. I'd rather see them give a bigger percentage to those 6.
     
  11. wantagolf wantagolf is online now Moderator

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 8:23am) in reply to MG2003

    Could someone please post the full payout, my firewall will not allow me to get to pokerstars website. thanks in advance.
     
  12. deadeyed deadeyed is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 11:00am) in reply to MG2003

    these payout structures sure seem to suck. I was thinking of playing the 215 fixed limit event tonight (7.30 pm) here in u.k. but events 1 & 2 took 17.5 hours and 15 hours....if event 3 gets just over 2000 entrants, first place pays 16.4% of prize pool, now i know that would be fantastic, but after the inevitable deal late on that would drop further and just seems a bit of an anti climax for what would be 16-19 hours of staring at the screen, zombified with the kids getting up in the morning wondering why they have to get their own breakfast, then amuse themselves all day while daddy lies slumped over the keyboard.
  13. Round42 Round42 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 11:47am) in reply to deadeyed

    I emailed stars about it, I suggest everyone else does the same.

    Ask for answers, ask for change. Compare their payout system to that of FTP for example and how it is much worse. Using FTP made them change their daily tourney schedule throughout the WCOOP, maybe this will help as well.
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  14. NUTZREALHUGE NUTZREALHUGE is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 11:56am) in reply to Round42

    yeah i got like 650th and got 405 bucks.

    what a complete and total fucking waste of time. 6 hours and i didnt even double my buyin.

    stars mtts are becoming a joke for sure.
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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 12:44pm) in reply to NUTZREALHUGE

     
    Originally Posted by NUTZREALHUGE View Post

    yeah i got like 650th and got 405 bucks.

    what a complete and total fucking waste of time. 6 hours and i didnt even double my buyin.

    stars mtts are becoming a joke for sure.

    I don't think the criticism was meant for 650th place....it was meant for places 7-9 (especially) and 10-appx 25. Especially the jump from 7-6 ($9021-$23,686) and 10-9 ($3753-$9021)
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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 12:48pm) in reply to NUTZREALHUGE

     
    Originally Posted by NUTZREALHUGE View Post

    yeah i got like 650th and got 405 bucks.

    what a complete and total fucking waste of time. 6 hours and i didnt even double my buyin.

    stars mtts are becoming a joke for sure.

    Tell me this is a level, pleasssssssssssssseeeeee
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  17. AntiClimacus AntiClimacus is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 2:18pm) in reply to andressoprano

    This is why Roothlus suggested some of the more well-known p5ers form some type of a MTT committee to try and persuade stars and others to come up with better structures.
  18. MG2003 MG2003 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 3:02pm) in reply to AntiClimacus

    LOL, I doubt an online player has the brains to figure out the best structure
     
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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 3:10pm) in reply to MG2003

    I thought the payout structure was a joke. It got 1.4 million, and 7th place is only 9k? Really? 10th place with a 1.4 million prizepool is 3.5k? Really?

    wp stars
     
  20. Wein Wein is offline Sunday Millionaire

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 3:12pm) in reply to MG2003

    Obv they had some issues with the payouts in WCOOP #1.

    Please look at event #3.
    1st $73,385
    2nd $54,192
    3rd $38,927
    4th $26,192
    5th $21,676
    6th $17,160
    7th $12,644
    8th $8,128
    9th $5,012
    10th-12th $3,612
    13th-15th $2,709
    16th-18th $1,806

    How sick is this?
     
  21. riversidejoe riversidejoe is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 3:19pm) in reply to Wein

    Yeah gotta agree with Deadeye.... who would be mad about staying up 17 hours and winning 200k, but realistically out of 8000 people odds are you wont, even if you get deep like 15 hours deep you might make a couple thousand...

    is that realy worth it?
     
  22. 8ROM 8ROM is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 3:48pm) in reply to riversidejoe

    Is there any game on earth more boring than a limit holdem tournament with 30 minute levels? 1hr15 in and just 5% of the field gone, haha. Whoever wins this deserves 500k for the boredom they have suffered.
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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 4:01pm) in reply to MG2003

    worst payout structure out there. CMON stars !!!
  24. 420beats 420beats is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 4:54pm) in reply to MadProfesor

    Its just marketing guys.every poker site on earth prints the winner and his purse.the bigger the bettter the perception of the tourney.Hopefully it will help the wcoop grow and everyone will make more.But in the meantime it sux ass.Its called capitalism i think.
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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 4:56pm) in reply to 8ROM

     
    Originally Posted by 8ROM View Post

    Is there any game on earth more boring than a limit holdem tournament with 30 minute levels? 1hr15 in and just 5% of the field gone, haha. Whoever wins this deserves 500k for the boredom they have suffered.

    Steal a blind if you can stand the excitement.
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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 5:52pm) in reply to JRoth15

     
    Originally Posted by JRoth15 View Post

    it was doubledave--from P5s...sick ass beat

    he straight up has a rigged acct on stars.
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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 7:29pm) in reply to MG2003

    made several posts earlier yesterday about this in different threads, total travesty, here is one

    stars needs to fix payout structure, it was a disgrace in event 1, 1st place $212k, 10th $3.7k, with 7000+ ppl in field, but 102nd pays $2k, so $1.7k jump from 102nd to 10th place, but $209,000 jump from 10th to 1st. fkin complete incompetence, and unacceptable. doubledave gets 9k for 7th? and whoever outlasts 5 more ppl in a 7000 ppl lotto gets $200k more? makes total sense
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  28. scarface_79 scarface_79 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 8:04pm) in reply to Wein

     
    Originally Posted by Wein View Post

    Obv they had some issues with the payouts in WCOOP #1.

    Please look at event #3.
    1st $73,385
    2nd $54,192
    3rd $38,927
    4th $26,192
    5th $21,676
    6th $17,160
    7th $12,644
    8th $8,128
    9th $5,012
    10th-12th $3,612
    13th-15th $2,709
    16th-18th $1,806

    How sick is this?

    10th place in this is the same as in event #1, where event #1 had $1 million more in the prizepool, so this in quasi-sane compared to event 1
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  29. miko77q miko77q is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 11:00pm) in reply to scarface_79

    Yeah this is terrible and hopefully stars will change it for the future events.

    Pacific Poker had a 1k buyin event with 2200 entrants where 8th got 30k and 1st got 1,000,000....What is wrong with these ppl.
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  30. MG2003 MG2003 is offline

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    Sep 7th, 2008 (9/7/2008 6:21am) in reply to scarface_79

    I agree scarface and nice run in event #1

    MG2003
     
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