I can't seem to understand why he would play this hand this way? I'm not a very good player, but it seemed like an unusual play in this spot? Can anyone help explain?

pokerstars Game #55672239024: Tournament #401020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXVII (250000/500000) - 2011/01/10 1:48:07 CT [2011/01/10 2:48:07 ET]
Table '401020010 392' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: vvvSEREGAvvv (5620766 in chips)
Seat 2: USCphildo (5022798 in chips)
Seat 3: kubik-rubik7 (21842678 in chips)
Seat 5: landlord27 (8652948 in chips)
Seat 6: tankitan (12063736 in chips)
Seat 7: Roydon Rock (16834547 in chips)
Seat 9: Doeks (14232527 in chips)
vvvSEREGAvvv: posts the ante 50000
USCphildo: posts the ante 50000
kubik-rubik7: posts the ante 50000
landlord27: posts the ante 50000
tankitan: posts the ante 50000
Roydon Rock: posts the ante 50000
Doeks: posts the ante 50000
Doeks: posts small blind 250000
vvvSEREGAvvv: posts big blind 500000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
USCphildo: raises 4472798 to 4972798 and is all-in
kubik-rubik7: calls 4972798
landlord27: folds
tankitan: folds
Roydon Rock: folds
Doeks: folds
vvvSEREGAvvv: folds
*** FLOP *** [9c 5h 3c]
*** TURN *** [9c 5h 3c] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [9c 5h 3c 8s] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
USCphildo: shows [9h 8c] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
kubik-rubik7: shows [Ah Ks] (a pair of Kings)
USCphildo collected 11045596 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11045596 | Rake 0
Board [9c 5h 3c 8s Kd]
Seat 1: vvvSEREGAvvv (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: USCphildo showed [9h 8c] and won (11045596) with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 3: kubik-rubik7 showed [Ah Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: landlord27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tankitan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Roydon Rock (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Doeks (small blind) folded before Flop

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They keep begging them to deal. If I was kubik, no way I'm looking at numbers until 3 handed unless chip stacks even out. I guess if I was in that situation i might think differently about the money but he needs to rock with that chip stack.

yeah, I can't stop laughing at kubik's begging- phil finally just shut it down

lol @ these deals every week...tank got extra 20k with like 7 bbs lol

Why did nobody respond to posters question? Whats the point of pushing 89o UTG with 10BB on the Mil FT?

cause UTG is the new button?

 

Originally Posted by RedIceRap

even for me (a nit) its the new button, but only with a decent stack so i can represent certain hands even after the flop, that push is just BAD

this is why you're you and phildo is phildo.

Push is pretty standard because he has 10bbs and the blinds are about to pass through him again. Before they do he still has a good amt of fold equity. His fe is amplified by the fact that he's shoving utg and its the final table of the sunday million with inexperienced players who are watching the payout structure closely and will not be calling him down light enough. So all these factors make it an ideal time to shove.

If he waits blinds go thru him and he has like 8.5bbs and his fold equity really begins to become more diluted.

Prime example of what you are holding is only a small consideration as to how you play the hand. Too many other factors at work here.

Even if he is called they wont have a 8 or 9 very often. Therefore 36% Equity vs. AK.

Yeah all the things u said r obv right, and i know what ure talkin about, id rather let the blinds go through tho and push from sb or bu if folded around, still nobody will call cause they scared, and i think ure a bit result oriented here, come on if a 1$ ABI donk would do that push it would be a horrible gamble or not? If such a player makes that push and is lucky it is genious and we shall all do the same and get on his level.. Maybe depends on the players/reads etc but still crazy push. Dont like it at all and prolly will need some months to understand this play.. Would like to hear more opinions about this hand.

 

Originally Posted by royalStud

Even if he is called they wont have a 8 or 9 very often. Therefore 36% Equity vs. AK.

But they also probably dont call with 77 or worse, does that mean we also push here with 23o and pray that the caller has ak so we have 36%? hope everybody posts his own opinion and not the opinion of the majority. And for u who push this all day, what else do u push here?

I think that this is a good push because he's more likely to have 2 live cards in this spot
If you consider antes, he has less than 10 bbs right before blinds hit him. I probably curse out my computer and push here as well.

is it really worth to take that risk and increase our stack by 2bb, just to get it decreased in the next 2 hands, with 89o, utg with 8 players left to act.. if i knew its +EV id def do that, but like i said before if were hoping to be life with 89o, were also life with 23o so we have to push that as well? cant see how someone calls there with 77 or worse if theyre so bad. dont know if its too nitty, have problems to tell my range here if i dont know anything about the other players and the dynamics, but my general pushing range would be something like 55+ or maybe any pocket, AJ+ or a bit looser

 

Originally Posted by njw11

any decent player calls with 77 just lol at folding 77 there

if i expect there are a lot of decent players on my table who will call me light i dont make a desparate push with what i call air from utg.. thought the main faktor are the nitty/scary players?

 

Originally Posted by njw11

i mean as of now he has fold equity. if blinds pass him without getting it in n the blinds raise before he does he dosent have fold equity and longer. I mean i know u think omg 89 but theres more to it then that. hte fact is his hand dosent really matter, yea it should be live vs most calling hands but not really sure thats the point. yea people are scared at this point of the tourny and with the pay jumps people might be folding in spot they shouldnt and he knows that. also the fact that the players should know that he is phildo n a compent player

This. If he folds here the blinds eat him up and he loses a lot of fold eq. Plus it will take a strong hand to call him which just won't be there that often. Pretty standard shove even though you hate to have to do it ...