Full Tilt Poker Game #19482588929: $1K Monday (143923179), Table 9 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:12:56 ET - 2010/03/22
Seat 1: ALLinwithdaBEST (5,010)
Seat 2: theshepard07 (5,010)
Seat 3: grtwhitehoop (4,940)
Seat 4: MLH90 (5,230)
Seat 5: acumen53 (4,970)
Seat 6: Christian Kruel (4,680)
Seat 7: SteamCleaner (5,010)
Seat 8: Kadabra (5,060)
Seat 9: thewood503 (5,090)
SteamCleaner posts the small blind of 10
Kadabra posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thewood503 [Ad Kh]
thewood503 raises to 70
ALLinwithdaBEST folds
theshepard07 folds
grtwhitehoop has 15 seconds left to act
grtwhitehoop calls 70
MLH90 folds
acumen53 calls 70
Christian Kruel folds
SteamCleaner folds
Kadabra folds
*** FLOP *** [4d 7h 2d]
thewood503 has 15 seconds left to act
thewood503 bets 180
grtwhitehoop has 15 seconds left to act
grtwhitehoop calls 180
acumen53 has 15 seconds left to act
acumen53 calls 180
*** TURN *** [4d 7h 2d] [5d]
thewood503 has 15 seconds left to act
thewood503 bets 540
grtwhitehoop has 15 seconds left to act
grtwhitehoop calls 540
acumen53 folds
*** RIVER *** [4d 7h 2d 5d] [Tc]
HugoAIR (Observer): vc pode me responder?
thewood503 checks
grtwhitehoop has 15 seconds left to act
grtwhitehoop has requested TIME
grtwhitehoop bets 1,100
thewood503 has 15 seconds left to act
thewood503 raises to 4,300, and is all in

I feel like when villain bets this river his range is a flush 90%+. But notice this is first level of 1k and I bet flop/turn into two opponents before c/shoving river. Felt like his hand was almost always of the 89,j10,j9,q10dd variety, anybody like this or am I reaching too far trying to get him to fold between 2nd-7th nut type of hands.

The only hands I think you're getting him to fold here are low flushes which there are obv aren't a ton of cuz of the cards out there... If you're 90% sure he has a flush, I have a very very hard time making this bet, cuz I would literally expect to get called almost everytime he has a flush.

Also, I see regs making these kinda moves once in awhile and it seems most the time, they do not have the "flush"/hand they're trying to represent. Personally I would just give it up here, unless you got some insanely sick read here that he's folding a flush, which I'm doubting... even in a 1k.

how is he going to bet the river and fold a flush??? who bets the river unless he has the nuts or nothing...and the nuts in his eyes very well could be a set against the range he puts you on...i doubt he folds a set more less a flush.

U really think hes folding a flush? idk this play looks like it might get a flush to fold 1 out of 100 times

folds all sets and calls with any flush

lol this

wtf is this play, i don't get it why are u pulling off such an elaborate play so early with so many bb with so little invested

and why are u building this pot with AK hi to pull of this river move??

I agree that the play overall is very spewy and tbh I didnt see that acumen had over called flop or I would have c/folded the turn. But when you say it makes no sense at all I disagree in the fact that if I had the nut flush or K high flush I'm pretty confident I would take the same line.

Def agree with everything ape said if grtwhitehoop wasn't a reg...

I think the fact that this is reg on reg could really make him fold some flushes here, all the way up to Kxdd possibly, but that might be assuming too much with this particular player. Dunno what history you guys have or anything like that, but with limited history this doesn't seem like the worst bluff to pull since he's going to be giving you a ton of credit with your line, and you have your blocker. Villain seems like a v good player who would be capable of laying down a big hand here with your perceived "tight image" pre ante with a limited dynamic. Yes there are way better spots since we are kind of assuming a few things, but its just so unlikely your bluffing here at 10/20 in the 1k Monday that I think its a pretty profitable line vs the right players. The problem is figuring out who those players are while continuously dumping your buy-in pre ante trying to find out.

Cliff notes : I think its fine if you think hes capable of folding a flush with about 40 percent of his stack in.

if this was a live 10k maybe id do it, but even in an online 1k i doubt it will work and fold out most flushes wit J hi or better, proll even worse

 

Originally Posted by Pghfan987

Out of curiosity would you also take this same line with AdAs?

I mean, this whole complicated disaster could've been avoided by just c/fing the flop.

need hood and shades to pull this one off

i feel like if im grtwhite im not folding any, sets any flushes....u potted it utg...so hes not gonna put u on a set or flush imo...ur line looks super strong like qq+ and ad hands but i would not be folding sets or flushes to the line ur taking.

i understand u gotta be creative sometimes but this seems spewy at 10-20 in a 1k.

reaching 2 far here think

i think villain folds here more times than most people think

agree to the above ^^^