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Very tough spot, opinions?

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  1. Faaantastic Faaantastic is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2006 (9/20/2006 12:36pm)

    Ok, so I was stupid and didn't lead the flop to find out where I was at.
    So i gained no information, and theres a ton of people left to act after me.
    I'm pretty sure I have the button crushed, but what about the rest of the players?

    pokerstars GAME #6346015929: TOURNAMENT #32192492, $20+$2 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IV (50/100) - 2006/09/19 - 18:30:02 (ET)
    Table '32192492 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: BenRounded (2300 in chips)
    Seat 2: Steven8987 (1245 in chips)
    Seat 3: faaantastic (2565 in chips)
    Seat 4: mixeral777 (3290 in chips)
    Seat 5: millsy101 (1090 in chips)
    Seat 6: dib34 (2815 in chips)
    Seat 7: addiegg (4320 in chips)
    Seat 8: delta234 (850 in chips)
    Seat 9: B1GMAMA (1685 in chips)
    faaantastic: posts small blind 50
    mixeral777: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to faaantastic [Ks Qh]
    millsy101: folds
    dib34: calls 100
    addiegg: folds
    delta234: folds
    B1GMAMA: calls 100
    BenRounded: folds
    Steven8987: calls 100
    faaantastic: calls 50
    mixeral777: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Qc 8c 8h]
    faaantastic: checks
    mixeral777: checks
    dib34: checks
    B1GMAMA: checks
    Steven8987: bets 1145 and is all-in
    faaantastic: .........................

    And yes, I know I should have led the flop. But I checked, and now am facing a tough decision.
    Your move?
  2. jay_shark jay_shark is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2006 (9/20/2006 12:42pm) in reply to Faaantastic

    Doesn't look good for you .

    I'd fold here unless he was a maniac capable of making risky bluffs .
  3. jay_shark jay_shark is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2006 (9/20/2006 12:44pm) in reply to jay_shark

    If he's clever , he may have tried this move with trip 8's . In fact , any thinking player may think he's on a flush draw and may call . Try not to fall for that trap .
  4. j_farah j_farah is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2006 (9/20/2006 1:52pm) in reply to Faaantastic

    I fold here. You might be beating the button, but any of the players left to act behind you could easily have been slow playing trip 8s or even Q8.
  5. luckybacon luckybacon is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2006 (9/20/2006 6:13pm) in reply to j_farah

    i also think a hand like j10 or 910 of clubs makes this push.
  6. Faaantastic Faaantastic is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2006 (9/20/2006 6:17pm) in reply to j_farah

    I timebanked it, thought it over, and decided it was worth the risk to win the 1100 in the pot at this point in the tournament.
    Like Jay asked, the button was in fact a crazy lagtard "donk" as you can tell from his shove here with.......... POCKET DEUCES!

    Also, am I correct in assuming that someone *might* fold a 6-8 or 7-8 thinking they're outkicked? I was wondering this as I decided whether to fold or shove, and in the $22 level I just don't think someone would fold that, but I'm not sure.

    My decision not to bet the flop cost me, as I woulda gotten raised or cold called and had to slow down on the turn, even though I woulda hit top 2. Was a tough spot and I made a mistake.

    Here's the rest....

    faaantastic: raises 1320 to 2465 and is all-in
    mixeral777: calls 2465
    dib34: folds
    B1GMAMA: folds
    Steven8987 said, "gg"
    Steven8987 said, "2"
    *** TURN *** [Qc 8c 8h] [Kc]
    Steven8987 said, "2"
    Steven8987 said, "2"
    *** RIVER *** [Qc 8c 8h Kc] [Js]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    faaantastic: shows [Ks Qh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
    mixeral777: shows [8d As] (three of a kind, Eights)
    mixeral777 collected 2640 from side pot
    Steven8987: shows [2c 2s] (two pair, Eights and Deuces)
    mixeral777 collected 3935 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 6575 Main pot 3935. Side pot 2640. | Rake 0
    Board [Qc 8c 8h Kc Js]
    Seat 1: BenRounded folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Steven8987 (button) showed [2c 2s] and lost with two pair, Eights and Deuces
    Seat 3: faaantastic (small blind) showed [Ks Qh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens
    Seat 4: mixeral777 (big blind) showed [8d As] and won (6575) with three of a kind, Eights
    Seat 5: millsy101 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: dib34 folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: addiegg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: delta234 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: B1GMAMA folded on the Flop
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