1. I've played with him in todays nightly 100k and he played pretty solid. obv. its easy to judge sum1 on 1 hand where he ridiculusly gambles but he does alot of good things and is deceptive.
    I find it funny how sum suposedly top respected plyrs do bad plays and its fine but when he does it he's a retard spewmonkey. all the best plyrs make marginal/bad calls once in while... anyway fwiw

    PokerStars Game #14080507855: Tournament #71075557, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/12/24 - 22:06:21 (ET)
    Table '71075557 76' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: TheRealMT (10270 in chips)
    Seat 2: x2then (3745 in chips)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 (7545 in chips)
    Seat 4: GenetikFreak (1990 in chips)
    Seat 5: cmdnste (5585 in chips)
    Seat 6: kambalamba (8810 in chips)
    Seat 7: Durikid (10740 in chips)
    Seat 8: Fjusse (7450 in chips)
    Seat 9: KidIcee (4145 in chips)
    KidIcee: posts small blind 75
    TheRealMT: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to GenetikFreak [4d Kc]
    x2then: folds
    vietcong01: raises 150 to 300
    GenetikFreak: folds
    cmdnste: folds
    kambalamba: calls 300
    Durikid: calls 300
    Fjusse: folds
    KidIcee: folds
    TheRealMT: calls 150
    *** FLOP *** [Qd 4c 2s]
    TheRealMT: checks
    vietcong01: bets 600
    kambalamba: folds
    Durikid: folds
    TheRealMT: calls 600
    *** TURN *** [Qd 4c 2s] [6d]
    TheRealMT: checks
    vietcong01: checks
    *** RIVER *** [Qd 4c 2s 6d] [7s]
    TheRealMT: checks
    vietcong01: bets 600
    TheRealMT: calls 600
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    vietcong01: shows [Jc Qc] (a pair of Queens)
    TheRealMT: mucks hand
    vietcong01 collected 3675 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3675 | Rake 0
    Board [Qd 4c 2s 6d 7s]
    Seat 1: TheRealMT (big blind) mucked [8s Qs]
    Seat 2: x2then folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 showed [Jc Qc] and won (3675) with a pair of Queens
    Seat 4: GenetikFreak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: cmdnste folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: kambalamba folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: Durikid folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: Fjusse (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: KidIcee (small blind) folded before Flop

    PokerStars Game #14080644296: Tournament #71075557, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/12/24 - 22:15:51 (ET)
    Table '71075557 76' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: TheRealMT (4875 in chips)
    Seat 2: x2then (7640 in chips)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 (9270 in chips)
    Seat 4: GenetikFreak (4055 in chips)
    Seat 5: cmdnste (5360 in chips)
    Seat 6: kambalamba (8960 in chips)
    Seat 7: Durikid (8900 in chips)
    Seat 8: Fjusse (7000 in chips)
    Seat 9: KidIcee (4220 in chips)
    TheRealMT: posts small blind 75
    x2then: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to GenetikFreak [2h 3d]
    vietcong01: raises 300 to 450
    GenetikFreak: folds
    cmdnste: folds
    kambalamba: folds
    Durikid: folds
    Fjusse: folds
    KidIcee: folds
    TheRealMT: folds
    x2then: calls 300
    *** FLOP *** [3h Tc Kd]
    x2then: checks
    vietcong01: checks
    *** TURN *** [3h Tc Kd] [4c]
    x2then: checks
    vietcong01: checks
    *** RIVER *** [3h Tc Kd 4c] [4s]
    x2then: checks
    vietcong01: bets 750
    x2then: calls 750
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    vietcong01: shows [Qh Qd] (two pair, Queens and Fours)
    x2then: mucks hand
    vietcong01 collected 2475 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2475 | Rake 0
    Board [3h Tc Kd 4c 4s]
    Seat 1: TheRealMT (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: x2then (big blind) mucked [8h 8d]
    Seat 3: vietcong01 showed [Qh Qd] and won (2475) with two pair, Queens and Fours
    Seat 4: GenetikFreak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: cmdnste folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: kambalamba folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Durikid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Fjusse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: KidIcee (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    PokerStars Game #14080812556: Tournament #71075557, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/12/24 - 22:27:43 (ET)
    Table '71075557 76' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: TheRealMT (4875 in chips)
    Seat 2: x2then (5240 in chips)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 (7720 in chips)
    Seat 4: GenetikFreak (2755 in chips)
    Seat 5: cmdnste (5135 in chips)
    Seat 6: kambalamba (11060 in chips)
    Seat 7: Durikid (8750 in chips)
    Seat 8: Fjusse (14745 in chips)
    x2then: posts small blind 100
    vietcong01: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to GenetikFreak [8c K]
    GenetikFreak: folds
    cmdnste: folds
    kambalamba: folds
    Durikid: folds
    Fjusse: folds
    TheRealMT: raises 400 to 600
    x2then: folds
    vietcong01: calls 400
    *** FLOP *** [3c 5s Ac]
    vietcong01: checks
    TheRealMT: bets 800
    Mr nOmadsen is connected
    vietcong01: raises 800 to 1600
    TheRealMT: raises 2675 to 4275 and is all-in
    vietcong01: calls 2675
    *** TURN *** [3c 5s Ac] [Tc]
    *** RIVER *** [3c 5s Ac Tc] [2c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    vietcong01: shows [Ah 5h] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
    TheRealMT: shows [Ad Js] (a pair of Aces)
    vietcong01 collected 9850 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 9850 | Rake 0
    Board [3c 5s Ac Tc 2c]
    Seat 1: TheRealMT (button) showed [Ad Js] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 2: x2then (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: vietcong01 (big blind) showed [Ah 5h] and won (9850) with two pair, Aces and Fives
    Seat 4: GenetikFreak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: cmdnste folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: kambalamba folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Durikid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Fjusse folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    PokerStars Game #14080939109: Tournament #71075557, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/12/24 - 22:36:09 (ET)
    Table '71075557 76' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: amichaiKK (10965 in chips)
    Seat 2: x2then (9779 in chips)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 (12295 in chips)
    Seat 4: netbuster (5625 in chips)
    Seat 5: feldliss (5285 in chips)
    Seat 6: kambalamba (11560 in chips)
    Seat 7: Durikid (8450 in chips)
    Seat 8: Fjusse (18688 in chips)
    Seat 9: Mr nOmadsen (6500 in chips)
    vietcong01: posts small blind 100
    netbuster: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    feldliss: folds
    kambalamba: folds
    Durikid: folds
    Mr nOmadsen said, "ok no more raising with 45 sooteddd"
    Mr nOmadsen said, "=)"
    Fjusse has timed out
    Fjusse: folds
    Fjusse is sitting out
    Mr nOmadsen: folds
    amichaiKK: folds
    Fjusse has returned
    x2then: raises 400 to 600
    vietcong01: calls 500
    netbuster: folds
    *** FLOP *** [5d 9c 5s]
    vietcong01: checks
    x2then: bets 800
    vietcong01: raises 1000 to 1800
    x2then: folds
    vietcong01 collected 3000 from pot
    vietcong01: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3000 | Rake 0
    Board [5d 9c 5s]
    Seat 1: amichaiKK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: x2then (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: vietcong01 (small blind) collected (3000)
    Seat 4: netbuster (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: feldliss folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: kambalamba folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Durikid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Fjusse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Mr nOmadsen folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    PokerStars Game #14080986123: Tournament #71075557, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/12/24 - 22:39:12 (ET)
    Table '71075557 76' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: amichaiKK (10955 in chips)
    Seat 2: x2then (8369 in chips)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 (13885 in chips)
    Seat 4: netbuster (4815 in chips)
    Seat 5: feldliss (5075 in chips)
    Seat 6: kambalamba (14240 in chips)
    Seat 7: Durikid (6640 in chips)
    Seat 8: Fjusse (18678 in chips)
    Seat 9: Mr nOmadsen (6490 in chips)
    amichaiKK: posts the ante 10
    x2then: posts the ante 10
    vietcong01: posts the ante 10
    netbuster: posts the ante 10
    feldliss: posts the ante 10
    kambalamba: posts the ante 10
    Durikid: posts the ante 10
    Fjusse: posts the ante 10
    Mr nOmadsen: posts the ante 10
    feldliss: posts small blind 100
    kambalamba: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Durikid: raises 400 to 600
    Fjusse: folds
    Mr nOmadsen: folds
    amichaiKK: folds
    x2then: folds
    vietcong01: calls 600
    netbuster: folds
    feldliss: folds
    kambalamba: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Ts 8s 9s]
    Durikid: bets 1000
    vietcong01: calls 1000
    *** TURN *** [Ts 8s 9s] [8c]
    Durikid: checks
    vietcong01: bets 1400
    Durikid: raises 1400 to 2800
    vietcong01: raises 1400 to 4200
    Durikid: raises 830 to 5030 and is all-in
    vietcong01: calls 830
    *** RIVER *** [Ts 8s 9s 8c] [Th]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Durikid: shows [Ah Ks] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
    vietcong01: shows [9d 8d] (a full house, Eights full of Tens)
    vietcong01 collected 13650 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 13650 | Rake 0
    Board [Ts 8s 9s 8c Th]
    Seat 1: amichaiKK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: x2then folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 showed [9d 8d] and won (13650) with a full house, Eights full of Tens
    Seat 4: netbuster (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: feldliss (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: kambalamba (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: Durikid showed [Ah Ks] and lost with two pair, Tens and Eights
    Seat 8: Fjusse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Mr nOmadsen folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    PokerStars Game #14081052540: Tournament #71075557, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/12/24 - 22:43:32 (ET)
    Table '71075557 76' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: amichaiKK (22130 in chips)
    Seat 2: x2then (8339 in chips)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 (21255 in chips)
    Seat 4: netbuster (4785 in chips)
    Seat 5: feldliss (4945 in chips)
    Seat 6: kambalamba (13910 in chips)
    Seat 7: Drewsie1 (9870 in chips)
    Seat 8: Fjusse (7523 in chips)
    Seat 9: Mr nOmadsen (6260 in chips)
    amichaiKK: posts the ante 10
    x2then: posts the ante 10
    vietcong01: posts the ante 10
    netbuster: posts the ante 10
    feldliss: posts the ante 10
    kambalamba: posts the ante 10
    Drewsie1: posts the ante 10
    Fjusse: posts the ante 10
    Mr nOmadsen: posts the ante 10
    Mr nOmadsen: posts small blind 100
    amichaiKK: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    x2then: folds
    vietcong01: calls 200
    netbuster: folds
    feldliss: folds
    kambalamba: calls 200
    Drewsie1: calls 200
    Fjusse: folds
    Mr nOmadsen: calls 100
    amichaiKK: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5c Qc 6s]
    Mr nOmadsen: checks
    amichaiKK: checks
    vietcong01: bets 400
    kambalamba: folds
    Drewsie1: folds
    Mr nOmadsen: calls 400
    amichaiKK: folds
    *** TURN *** [5c Qc 6s] [3h]
    Mr nOmadsen: checks
    vietcong01: checks
    *** RIVER *** [5c Qc 6s 3h] [2c]
    Mr nOmadsen: bets 1200
    vietcong01: raises 19445 to 20645 and is all-in
    Mr nOmadsen: folds
    Mr nOmadsen said, "flush good man"
    vietcong01 collected 4290 from pot
    vietcong01: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4290 | Rake 0
    Board [5c Qc 6s 3h 2c]
    Seat 1: amichaiKK (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: x2then folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 collected (4290)
    Seat 4: netbuster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: feldliss folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: kambalamba folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: Drewsie1 folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: Fjusse (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Mr nOmadsen (small blind) folded on the River
  2. everyone of his opponents played every single one of these hands absolutely terribly.
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  3. omg vietcong is like so lucky he'll be broke in 2 more weeks if he keeps playing the way he does hes so nuts and always gets his money bad wow hes so stupid why doesnt he just jump off a building!!!!!!!!!

    anyways, i'm curious to sow how his results will be in the new year. if he's truly as bad as people say he'll obviously have some wicked variance. but i just dont know how someone could win so many tournaments just based on running good alone. so, i guess we'll see
  4. Vietcong is clearly good, end of discussion...
  5. wow i didnt know suited connectors had so much value in any position...i should start playing sc in every position now no matter how big pre flop raise is lol!!!
  6. I may be result oriented but hes won alot would'nt you agree...
    Thread Starter
  7. Theres a misunderstanding on pocketfives. When the better players say Vietcong is terrible, we don't mean terrible compared to the average poker player, we mean terrible compared to people with comparable results.

    Hes actually quite good if you compare him to the average poker player.
  8. What SCTrojans just said is incredibly important, and something a lot of people are missing.
  9. SC maybe since u and many other high buy in MTTs play him often how does he compare to the average player in the fields he plays......

    cuz the average poker player doesnt play every 100r and 1k
  10. If I had to make a guess.... breakeven in 100r and 1ks?

    Its incredibly difficult to accurately judge that though.
  11. <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Re(1): Vietcong01 wheres the fuss?
    by SCTrojans on 12/24/2007 22:21 </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><NOBR> </NOBR></TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Theres a misunderstanding on pocketfives. When the better players say Vietcong is terrible, we don't mean terrible compared to the average poker player, we mean terrible compared to people with comparable results.

    Hes actually quite good if you compare him to the average poker player. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    QFT
     
  12. yeah i mean he is obviously running above expectation...........but i feel like maybe this vietcong01 is a retard/dumb etc has no idea what he is doing is making things that much easier for him?

    can someones image be that much helpful to there game that people are "playing" down to him

    making rational and stupid decisions becuz they think he is some donk on a heater

    edit: im not always taking about calling down lighter but trying to play hands in position against him that they normally wouldnt becuz they think he is bad and or lucky
  13. of course people could be looking him up alot lighter, moreso after all the gossip etc. about him over the past month
     
  14. on a side note, i think we need more jj prodigy and vietcong threads
  15. Dealt to GenetikFreak [8c K]?????????????????
  16. LOL he deleted the K"c" so we wouldnt see he would of caught the nut flush
  17. SCT I think what you say here is definitely correct. Although from railing him a lot I would have to say his end game seems a lot better than most average players???
  18. yes i admit to that... does this tilt u guys sumtimes.... u guys r sharp btw
    Thread Starter
  19. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    PokerStars Game #14100504273: Tournament #71071186, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/12/25 - 22:31:07 (ET)
    Table '71071186 14' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: #1MONEY $HOT (52803 in chips)
    Seat 2: nickdundee (24964 in chips)
    Seat 3: rjinnj (11670 in chips)
    Seat 4: bikocruz (21235 in chips)
    Seat 5: RaiNKhAN (38573 in chips)
    Seat 6: vietcong01 (15638 in chips)
    Seat 7: Himclip85 (22880 in chips)
    Seat 8: fusion2 (46405 in chips)
    Seat 9: Jadeite (46955 in chips)
    #1MONEY $HOT: posts the ante 75
    nickdundee: posts the ante 75
    rjinnj: posts the ante 75
    bikocruz: posts the ante 75
    RaiNKhAN: posts the ante 75
    vietcong01: posts the ante 75
    Himclip85: posts the ante 75
    fusion2: posts the ante 75
    Jadeite: posts the ante 75
    Himclip85: posts small blind 400
    fusion2: posts big blind 800
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Jadeite: folds
    #1MONEY $HOT: folds
    nickdundee: folds
    rjinnj: folds
    bikocruz: folds
    RaiNKhAN: folds
    vietcong01: raises 1600 to 2400
    Himclip85: folds
    fusion2: calls 1600
    *** FLOP *** [4h Qc 3d]
    fusion2: bets 3200
    vietcong01: raises 9963 to 13163 and is all-in
    fusion2: folds
    vietcong01 collected 12275 from pot
    vietcong01: shows [Ts As] (high card Ace)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 12275 | Rake 0
    Board [4h Qc 3d]
    Seat 1: #1MONEY $HOT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: nickdundee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: rjinnj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: bikocruz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: RaiNKhAN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: vietcong01 (button) collected (12275)
    Seat 7: Himclip85 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: fusion2 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 9: Jadeite folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  20. Cosign what DoubleDave said... many of those hands against VC were played so bad.
  21. PokerStars Game #14100379414: Tournament #70760349, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/12/25 - 22:23:40 (ET)
    Table '70760349 6' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: pairDboard21 (9280 in chips)
    Seat 2: Stev0L_ (5117 in chips)
    Seat 3: crice25 (11532 in chips)
    Seat 4: soggy dogg (4191 in chips)
    Seat 5: vietcong01 (5708 in chips)
    Seat 6: makavelyces (19600 in chips)
    Seat 7: dandillybar (3849 in chips)
    Seat 8: zangbezan24 (11780 in chips)
    Seat 9: AcEGoDD (7254 in chips)
    pairDboard21: posts the ante 20
    Stev0L_: posts the ante 20
    crice25: posts the ante 20
    soggy dogg: posts the ante 20
    vietcong01: posts the ante 20
    makavelyces: posts the ante 20
    dandillybar: posts the ante 20
    zangbezan24: posts the ante 20
    AcEGoDD: posts the ante 20
    soggy dogg: posts small blind 100
    vietcong01: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    makavelyces: folds
    dandillybar: folds
    zangbezan24: raises 350 to 550
    AcEGoDD: folds
    pairDboard21: folds
    Stev0L_: folds
    crice25: folds
    soggy dogg: folds
    vietcong01: calls 350
    *** FLOP *** [6d Th 8d]
    vietcong01: checks
    zangbezan24: bets 950
    vietcong01: raises 1250 to 2200
    zangbezan24: raises 9010 to 11210 and is all-in
    vietcong01: calls 2938 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [6d Th 8d] [6c]
    *** RIVER *** [6d Th 8d 6c] [8c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    vietcong01: shows [2c 2s] (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
    zangbezan24: shows [Ts Td] (a full house, Tens full of Eights)
    zangbezan24 collected 11656 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 11656 | Rake 0
    Board [6d Th 8d 6c 8c]
    Seat 1: pairDboard21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Stev0L_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: crice25 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: soggy dogg (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: vietcong01 (big blind) showed [2c 2s] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sixes
    Seat 6: makavelyces folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: dandillybar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: zangbezan24 showed [Ts Td] and won (11656) with a full house, Tens full of Eights
    Seat 9: AcEGoDD folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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