1. Jason Ho is a losing player and these are the accounts that he plays under
A) zenconcept, zen888, jadebling, babiekwai, and lilbebi

B) His key point of reference is that he made $1M in 2008, yet his insolvency (bankruptcy) in the UK clearly refutes this.

C) He has several times been asked to produce proof that he is in fact a winning player and has never been able to do so
2. Jason Ho is a Scammer and Planned to Scam people out of money
A) Jason bragged about being a scammer on a public forum

http://www.dragonlink.co.uk/forums/s...ad.php?t=31368

B) Jason plays against students while coaching them over teamviewer so he can see their cards while playing

C) Jason collected over 90K from his poker crew in order to do a staking deal . He never alerted them that he was bankrupt and basically took all of their money and gambled it away.

D) He habitually lies to his students and says things and then denies ever saying them.

E) Jason asks to borrow money from students in order to "clear bonuses" and then either never pays them back or simply borrows money from other students to pay them back with or says he will credit it it toward coaching

F) Jason lied about being on the cover of A Asian poker magazine where he paid for the photo shoot out of his own pocket to impress people

G) Jason will play against his students while sweating whil e s seeing their cards
3 . Jason is a bad coach
A) He shouts down and berates his students when they are not following what he is saying

B) When students go on big downswings, he places the blame solely on the student - either they are having personal issues or are not correctly following the strategies he has taught them

C) He is very dismissive - he forces his opinion upon his students

D) He does not give his full attention to students during paid coaching sessions - e.g. in camp Macau, he was coaching a student whilst playing on his PSP, but also distracted by facebook and skype conversations

E) He does not care if he is late/doesn't turn up for agreed scheduled sessions

F) No room for debate if students are not satisfied with the quality of coaching received - no refunds at all given, only alternative for services already paid for in advance is more coaching

G) Several students having gone to Macau for 1-2 week ''1on1'' intensive courses found that other students were there already

H) Students who have gone to Macau for intensive coaching did not receive the full number of hours that they paid for. e.g. one student paid Jason 7000USD for what amounted to approximately 7 hours of coaching spread over at least a week. This was for NL50 coaching (1000usd/h effectively)

I) Jason sends coaches and students databases to other students (at the same stakes.)

J) The overwhelming majority of Jason's students have had worse results after his coaching than beforehand. Many winning players have become losing or break-even players as a result of following his advice.
4. Jason scammed his students into making an investment into a PLO Fund
A) Jason claimed he had solved PLO and wanted to help his poker crew grow by having them stake him and that he was going to not play higher than 5/10 PLO

B) He rushed people to send him 90K plus in money and as soon as he got it told everyone that the project would have to wait until he received at least 150K which wasn't the deal

C) He told everyone that he was holding the funds and that the project hadn't started

D) In January he let the crew know that he had been playing 25/50 PLO and that the fund was down to only 40% of its starting value

E) He said he informed people via email that he was starting the project in October but not one person in the crew got the email

F) When the crew members asked for their remaining money back, he said that he had borrowed the remaining amount without any of the crews knowledge and had to wait till he received coaching fees to pay them back
5. Jason Ho multi Accounts on his students accounts
A) Not only does he do this, but he also takes money out of their accounts without their permission
6. Jason’s poker camps are a scam
During December 2009 two students joined Jason in Macau (stayed with him in his apartment)for a 2 week intensive course we paid 7k and 5k Us dollars respectively for this camp + living and trip expenses. The following transpired:

A) Jason was not physically present for 6 days (40-50% of the time), not one minute of those days.

B) Jason took ”personal breaks” for a day or two because he was ”tired”. Locked himself in his room with his girlfriend and did not show up.

C) Jason was highly unprofessional, abrasive, unorganized during the actual ”coaching sessions”. His poker knowledge was slightly above beginner level evidenced by his illogical poker reasoning. Example: Jason argued Jts had more equity all in preflop then 87s vs As AIPF for two days until we stoved it.

D) Not one hour of his ”coaching” was planned or organized in any way and when he actually did turn up from his room, decidedly all of the few hours the students got coached there where random poker discussions and mumbling.

E) Jason, prior to going to camp, made several claims of which none turned out true when: 1. He solved cap Omaha (in fact once asked in Macau for help he claimed he had no experience in cap) 2. He never informed either one of the students that there would be other players there during this time. 3. He was a mental game expert (in fact he knew no theory of mental game).

F) Jason unprofessionalism was so demonstrated that he would personally berate students and argue over nothing for hours (like broken pencils).

G) When confronted for a refund, Jason agreed he did not perform well at all during the camp. He offered more coaching as compensation, but as neither student wanted to get coached by him they wanted refunds. He said no and immediately blocked one student from his skype and never tried to resolve the issue after this.

H) In conclusion: On student paid 5000 US dollars, travelled halfway around the world to get coached for 5-8 hours in total spanning over 14 days by a poker player with little to no knowledge of the game that likes to talk down and berate you constantly. Lessons learned while in Macau: Cool timer is cool, chilli seeds can’t be eaten without a spoon, a Hello Dolly pen can have a very significant sentimental value.
7. Jason Ho creates Shady affiliate deals that he either doesn't pay or short changes people
A) Jason encourages his students to open up new accounts through his affiliates and then doesn't pay

B) Jason promises 40% RB on sites like FT and yet nobody I we have spoken with has gotten what they expected

My story started with Jason Ho at the end ofsummer 2008 when he was hired as a Stoxpoker coach. At the time he offeredcoaching lessons for $100 /hr and i took about 4-5 hrs of lessons were hepointed out several major leaks of mine. This was enough for me to go on withmy basic aggressive style and win money, just by removing my spewy lines ibecame a solid winner.

He mentioned he wanted to create a crew as hisrates will be higher for 2009 and basically if i wanted coaching i would haveto pay $250-350/hr depending on what limit i play, or be a part of the crewthat contributes a certain percentage of profits. He was promising me hiscoaching should lift me up to 600-1000NL by end of year in the crew.

He advertises himself very well, he claims tomake $1.0Million in 2007, he claimed to me he won multiple wsop tickets and hejust used it towards his bankroll. I eventually became part of that crew andever since i havent received coaching from Jason (maybe 4-5 hrs for the wholeyear, that were absolutely uneffective him chatting while sweating me), luckyfor me i did improve myself enough to make a profit, unlucky for me i paid 6Kin contributions from my profits. I was further promised to get an intensivecourse when i started to ran bad, which i never received. I never made it to 600NL, still fighting at the 100NL games. Andstaying with him being a loyal student was scammed by another 5K+20K dollars for coaching and investing in his PLOfund. It was foolish of me putting thismoney down when i saw none of his results (or at least verify those were hisresults), greed put me in that hole.

I also fell for his Camp Macau intensive pokercourse where he was going to make us work on poker from morning to evening. Iwent to meet him in personal and to start up PLO coaching with him to Macau,but all i got from him is a PLO preflop chart and internet connection where icould play poker. No coaching at all. Iwas wondering how come i cant beat PLO with 15/4 style. I also met two greatguys in Macau during my stay and they were getting comparable services to mine.Very disappointing.

I was suspicious about his being from day one,but because of the lot of great statements coming from other crew members andother students he made to write good reviews about him, made me stick with himthroughout this whole year. I was a fool, easy to take advantage of me chasingthe dream of making lot of money beating most games in poker. I learned mylesson the hard way.

As a bad student who didnt listen i made money,but i cant recommend him as a coach. He doesnt care about his students, its allabout the money for him and there is a good chance you will be scammed likemany of us were.

Jason created a crew with thegoal of coaching the next blackjack team of poker. Terms were he coaches, theteam contributes 33% of profits. Fair deal when u get good coaching.

At end of May 2009 at the timewhen jason broke up with his girlfriend came up with the idea (at the time the crew was not contributingas almost noone was making money) that he would require the crew members toput a bankroll together, its a "voluntary" act but since he commitsso much to the crew he actually wants us to commit so he would continue withcoaching and he could show us how its done. So his idea was to put together100,000 dollars for him so he can play 1000 PLO.

Terms were that he keeps 25% ofall profits, the rest is split up by the contributors of the fund. THe promisewas he can spin it up to 300,000 in a few months then take shots at even higherlimits, he is not doing it for the money but to help the team reach newheights. At this time the crew and i think also members of stoxpoker wereinformed in his blog how a weekend he made cca 90K dollars and chart was postedwithout a name.

The team started to put togetherthe funds, members taking money out of their lifetime savings, bankrolls(slowing down crew development) but he didnt care, even made a member to sellone of his properties in the hopes of extra cash.

When the collection of fundsstarted everything was rushed so the money would end up in his accounts(multiple ones as multiaccounting wasnt an issue for him), once all money wastransfered to him, the terms changed and now a 150K bankroll requirement wasdue to safely play the limits, meaning he was awaiting more funds to arrive andthe PLO project was put off few months. Needless to say all members were keptin the dark, about the terms of how cash will be dealt with, he based the crewup on terms of trust, the trust that was only brokne from his side multipletimes. To multiple requests from members of starting date of the project henever said the project will start, but then a possible march date 2010 was flaggedin the air, which was the date a member of the team said the property wouldturn into cash. So we were still waiting for that time.

One of the members, who actuallylived with him unhappily and unsatisfied for half a year in macau eventuallyquit the crew asking for his money back (since project hasnt yet started) andsince it was multiple times said that people can be bought out at currentmarket share. So since no monies ever come back from Jason HO, he had to tellthe truth that the fund was spent playing 25/50 PLO (when agreement was to onlyplay 5/10 with such bankroll) and that he took out 30K dollars for lifeexpenses out of the fund without informing his contributors/investors andblabbing his way out how all these happenings are normal. Basically he gambledit away (we believe he has hazardous gambling addiction) changing the terms ofthe whole project without informing anyone, and stating that he sent out emailsregarding PASSIVE starting of the fund (which is a lie as nobody received that email).

No need to say this person has nocredibility, no matter where he shows up, it just shows how shady his life is,e.g. filing for bankruptcy in the UK,scamming people for money in the poker industry, being a bad coach, living offother people, taking loans out on girlfriends and leave them in financial depth.No matter what you think of this wholemess around him, best you can do is to avoid him.

My story re: Jason Ho “the high stakes coach (Code 7654321)”

After being a small winner at 200nl and 100nl, I decided it was the time to search for a coach.

At StoxPoker.com, I read the site’s presentation of Jason Ho as a high winner who had won $1 million in 2008 and saw that he had numerous training videos on the site. I also took a look at the people recommending him.

I started coaching with Jason at the end of March 2008. At the beginning, he seemed helpful; telling me to widen my range, be more aggressive on draws, etc. He also impressed me by telling me he won at PLO and NL at middle and high stakes, showing me impressive graphs, and pictures of him in poker magazines.

In April I, Jason advised me to move to 16 tabling 200nl full time. He sold me a guide for $2000 saying that I could make 10BB/100 easily with it.
The guide was totally different from my normal wining, Tag/Nit 13/10 style. Instead, he had me playing a 22/20 style with much more 3Betting.

April -20 bi (-4000 $): I asked him to review my results but he told me I was not following the guide exactly and maybe I wasn’t running well.

May -5000 $: I asked to sweat him, but he didn’t want it, He sweated me sometimes and they were not all losing sessions, so I kept following his guide. He told me that I was still a good player, just not running well and invited me to join his crew. So around June I joined his crew, but we were not running well. Jason told us he was fed up about grinding, he had enough money so he wanted to commit to our team and bring us to the high stakes with him, and that he choose us because we were nice guys.

June -25 bi (-5000 $): I’ve now been running bad for 400,000 hands. I kept working on my game, trying to find leaks by myself as well as talking to other crew members. I even went down to 100NL. Jason then asked me to take part in his PLO plan, showing me his PLO graph. He assured me I would have a 100 % return on my money by the end of the year, but I declined.

July -3000: Jason told me I wasn’t ready to play his LAG style so he pointed me to a new guide with taught a nitty style but with similar results.

August -1000: At this point, I’m not following Jason’s advice. I’m just learning from videos and books, but am still very frustrated. I have 2 college degrees and a masters but I am not beating low limits even with a supposedly great coach.

In October, I hired a new coach from deucescracked.com. He looked at Jason’s guide and told me it was dangerous, unplayable and full of wrong information. He put me back on track to being a winning player.

I met Jason Ho through Stox Poker in Janauary 2009. After reading all the great reveiws about him I decided to take him on as a coach. I was a slighly winning 50NL player who had just moved up to100NL. After a few sessions, I was impressed and decided to do the 2 week intensive course with Jason. After the intensive course, I was very impressed. From my perpsective Jason really knew what he was talking about. Jason told me that if I followed everything he said, that he expected me to be beating 5/10 by the end of the year.

Needless to say, to I was excited and thought that if I was even beating 2/4 I would be happy. At this point Jason asked me to join his poker crew. This arrangement was that he would provide coaching to all of us and help us develop as group and in return, he would take 33% of our profits. Halfway through the year, Jason broke up with his girlfriend and came to us and said that he was reevaluating things and wasnt sure if the crew was worth his while. He said he had only made 7K out of it so far and that unless we made a change, it wouldn't be worth his time. Then he came up with the idea of creating a PLO project. He sold on on the idea that he lived the luxury lifestyle and that all he wanted to do was help us get to where he was with taking minimal risk. He had been bragging to us about how he was killing the games and showed us many impressive graphs. He said that after the events with his girlfriend, that he wanted to dedicate himself to helping people and that this would help invigorate him and "give the crew a much needed shot in the arm." Jason said he was going to contribute about 25K of his own money if the fund couldn't come up with the full 100K and tht he wanted 25% of the profits plus a % depending on the amount he invested plus all rakeback.

We all felt that Jason was being very generous and thought that this was the investment opportunity of a lifetime. Jason pushed us very hard to get the money to him, and once we did that he told u that the project would have to be put on hold. I personally sent him 35K which was basically my life savings, which I know, is n hindsight was foolish but to me and the rest of the crew, this guy was like a poker god who Stox endorsed as well as Jared Tendler and many other members at Stox. Also, had I known that Jason had been or was bankrupt, I would have never done this and he never told any of us this.

At this point I was beating 100NL for a small winrate. Jason told me that he was putting together a camp that he wanted me to be a part of. He said it cost 15K and that he would let me finance it through the RB I had with him. at this pint he suggested that I start playing 200NL. He wanted me to go over Macau as a primer and said that he would roll over that trip into the camp so I wouldn't need to pay. When I got their he had me immediately starting tp play 16 tables which I had never done before. Though I ran horribly EV wise I was also making allot of mistakes due to the fact that I had never played that many tables. He told me the key to poker was volume and that I just needed to get in as much volume as possible in order to even out the variance. In hindsight, I feel that he just wanted me to generate as much RB for him as possible and didn't care about my poker development. jason also offered to play on my account in order to help me out and that we would split all the profits 50/50. I would be playing allot more but because of his superior skill and winrate, it would even things out. Needless to say after the 2 weeks, we had combined losses of about 3K, 2 of which were mine. Also when I went there, my BR was 11K, after I left it was only 6K.

Jason had done some transfers between mine and his account but assured me that he had replaced everything. At the time, I knew it was wrong, but I didnt want to be pretty as I felt that once the PLO project starts, this will be pocket change. Needless to say after I left Macau, I went from a career high in earnings to having 3 straight losing months. Also, Jason didn't give me that much attentiuon while I was there and spent most of the time in his room with his girlfriend. Also, once I got home I wrongly told Jason that he could still play on my account. On 3 separate occasions, I woke up in the morning to play and my account was empty as Jason had lost all the money in it and each time it took him at least a day to replenish it. He also trnasferred money out of my account into his own accounts without my permission.

Even after all this, I blindly followed Jason, yet I was having my suspicions, though because he had so much of my money, I didn't want to piss him off and have him just run off with it so I was just hoping for the best. November rolled around and everyone began asking about the PLO project and Jason told us that again it would have to be pushed back until March and that he would update us at the end of the year with a gameplan. Needless to say, in January, Jason told us all that the fund was down to 40% of its original value. Nobody knew that the project had started, yet he claimed he sent out an email saying it had passively started at the end of September.

Nobody in the crew received that email. When people starting asking for their shares back, Jason said that he had borrowed the remaining money and was waiting till he received all the coaching fees that were owed to him before he could pay it back. When I was their, he had told me that his ex girlfriend had a few of his poker accounts frozen that were in her name and that he was short on immediate funds. I told him that as long as the PLO fund hadnt started, he could borrow some of my share(like 5K) as long as he replaced it before the project started. He claims that I told him he could borrow 35K, which just isnt the case especially not if I knew the project was starting.

Jason is your basic scammer! He is very smart, markets himself well, takes advantage of people who are too trusting, and lies and tries to confuse you and spin things. If you try to question him about things he either avoids the question, or tries to either turn it around on you or plain and simply throws allot of BS out there in order to get you off track. The bottom line is, after a year of coaching with Jason I have lost more than 60K between coaching fees and I am still playing 100NL.

lol must be true..

All those "different people" having bad experiences with him.....

If you want any credibility, please tell us who you really are. Otherwise, this just appears to be a smear campaign.

EDIT: Would be willing to wager substantial funds (at least $5) that some of these new accounts are from the same IP address (and yes newbies, they will check for this).

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Personal Story about Jason Ho Campin Macau

Background

I am a MSNL player and have played for a living last 3-4 years. a Iflew half way around the world, payed for travel and livivng expensesplus an additional 5k for the actual camp (actually it was meant tobe 7k if I did not decide to enter in the infamous PLO fund that youcan read about in other posts)

The story

First off let mejust say that the way Jason treated me and another person duringthese two weeks I have never been this mistreated in my entire life.He is a truly deceiving, lying, scamming, money grabbing person. Iwould never ever want what happened to me and another person to everhappen to anyone, ever. So therefore I post the following, this iswhat happened in Macau under these two weeks;

• 
  Jason was not physically present for 6 days (40-50% of the time), not one minute of those days.
• 
  Jason took ”personal breaks” for a day or two because he was ”tired”. Locked himself in his room with his girlfriend and did not show up.
• 
  Jason was highly unprofessional, abrasive, unorganized during the actual ”coaching sessions”. His poker knowledge was slightly above beginner level evidenced by his illogical poker reasoning. Example: Jason argued Jts had more equity all in preflop then 87s vs As AIPF for two days until we stoved it.
• 
  Not one hour of his ”coaching” was planned or organized in any way and when he actually did turn up from his room. Decidedly all of the few hours we got coached there where random poker discussions and mumbling.
• 
  Jason, prior to going to camp, made several claims of which none turned out true when we got there: 1. He solved cap Omaha (infact once asked in Macau for help he claimed he had no experience in cap) 2. He never informed either one of us that ther would be other players there during this time. 3. He was a mental game expert (in fact he knew no theory of mental game).
• 
  Jason unprofessionalism was so demonstrated that he would personally berate students and argue over nothing for hours (like broken pencils).
• 
  When confronted for a refund, Jason agreed he did not perform well at all during the camp. He offered more coaching as compensation, but as neither one of us wanted to get coached by him we wanted refunds. He said no and immedialty blocked me from his skype and never tried to resolve the issue fter this.
• 
  In conclusion: I payed 5000 US dollars, travelled halfway around the world to get coached for 5-8 hours in total spanning over 14 days by a pokerplayer with little to no knowledge of the game that likes to talk down and berate you constantly. Lessons leanred while in Macau: Cool timer is cool, chilli seeds cant be eaten without a spoon, a Hello Dolly pen can have a very signifiant sentimental value.

The reason Imrepeating myself is that I dont want anyone to auffer through theagony of what dealing with a sociopath is. This man deserves noattention, aldo he does anything to get it. He should be ashamed ofthe way he treats people, with disrespect and absolutely no feelingof wrong or right. He would say and do anything do get you to do whathe wants. This whole experience of going to Macau and paying this manhas truly been a lesson for life. I ask you learn from my mistake.Have nothing to do with Jason Ho (Code7654321), ever in your life.

1) no one is going to read all that
2) nice first post by different people

3) thats all copy and pasted

edit: you are clearly making new accounts and posting this shit

I doubt he will get the chance....

Making all those accounts is certain to bet banhammered....

Lol epic 1st posts

I take that bet.

is this the guy that recently split with his girlfriend and wanted to tell anyone on p5 he changed his name?

Increase bet first?

It's important info for the whole community that s why we posted here also , we don t want other player to be scam like we were !!!

Who the fuck is Jason Ho?

A stoxpoker coach.

What the fuck is stoxpoker?*

What other websites have you spammed with this?
Are y'all in an e-gang or is it just one person?**

*rhetorical
**c'mon you can tell me

We are not all the same person

We are not a the same person. Mods please check IPs and report.

stoxpoker is a leading cash game training site. Very few people here play cash games so although this post may be very informative to a lot of people, it wont be as relevant here.

Regardless thanks for the post, I know there are a few other cash game players who will see this so thanks for your information.

Ok, then why have you made two posts yet your profile shows only one post? Don't answer that I'm just sayin' that I'm observant. Anyway, I'm going to reply to your other account.

Who the fuck are "we"?

"Mods please check and report" sounds like poker forum ma'er to me. Don't you feel a little guilty for usurping all those screennames?

And nice touch posting from two different accounts in the same minute.

I've heard very good things about Stoxpoker and am considering joining there, but I might try out a mtt site first, not really sure.

We are poker players that got coached by Jason at one time or another. I give my warmest recommendations on joining Stox.

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