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the way NOT to play a short stack

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  1. timzc1 timzc1 is offline

    Vancouver
    Canada

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    May 12th, 2006 (5/12/2006 5:30pm)

    No offence to this player -- we all make mistakes -- but when I saw this guy's play I thought it might be worth posting as a lesson for any1 new to MTT's.

    pokerstars Game #4912513366: Tournament #24600711, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/05/12 - 17:22:29 (ET)
    Table '24600711 31' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: grypsus (5190 in chips)
    Seat 2: SexyChica1 (2725 in chips)
    Seat 3: Slo gan (2823 in chips)
    Seat 4: auntiend1 (7585 in chips)
    Seat 5: fcna (1307 in chips) -----------------short stacked, just 9 bb and soon to be less
    Seat 6: bakosa (11636 in chips)
    Seat 7: aaron18D (1013 in chips)
    Seat 8: czarjem (10339 in chips)
    Seat 9: Timzc1 (5010 in chips) ----------my image is loose pre flop -- and i think the caller knew that wa spaying attention.
    auntiend1: posts small blind 75
    fcna: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Timzc1 [Ah Th]
    bakosa: folds
    aaron18D: folds
    czarjem: folds
    Timzc1: raises 300 to 450---common sized pot opening raise for the table
    grypsus: folds
    SexyChica1: folds
    Slo gan: folds
    auntiend1: folds
    fcna: calls 300---------bb, 2 more to call and see flop. why not shove or fold?
    *** FLOP *** [5c Jh Ks]

    fcna: checks (...hm, either v weak or v strong I think.)

    Timzc1: bets 1050----------- I got nothing: let's see if he has something.

    fcna: calls 857 and is all-in

    *** TURN *** [5c Jh Ks] [7d]

    *** RIVER *** [5c Jh Ks 7d] [Qs]

    *** SHOW DOWN ***

    fcna: shows [Td As] (a straight, Ten to Ace) -- called off last 800 chips with a gut shot. why not all in on flop or else fold?

    Timzc1: shows [Ah Th] (a straight, Ten to Ace)

    --tc
  2. Cyclone15 Cyclone15 is offline

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    United States

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    May 12th, 2006 (5/12/2006 8:58pm) in reply to timzc1

    I agree he should put the money in preflop, but I personally don't think the check/call is so bad. The reason to stop & go is to manufacture fold equity against better hands. If he shoves in on the flop, no hands better than A10 are folding, so he might as well let you bet.
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