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Weak Lead is so the new Check Raise

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  1. bgils bgils is offline

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    Feb 11th, 2008 (2/11/2008 10:59pm)

    Been out of the game for a bit, so if this has been discussed exhaustively already I apologize; but has anyone else noticed how the new standard/weak/whatever play w/a flopped set is to weak lead (replacing the good old check raise push)? I attribute years of TV coverage where everytime a pro bets out a made hand the announcers say what a strong/pro move this is.
  2. Phi Phi is offline aka tennisee

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    Feb 11th, 2008 (2/11/2008 11:06pm) in reply to bgils

    And in other news, we have landed on the moon.
  3. Dyzalot Dyzalot is offline

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    Feb 11th, 2008 (2/11/2008 11:10pm) in reply to bgils

    I do both but when I lead out its about the same as my c-bets, about 2/3 pot so not really a "weak" lead.
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  4. Be_Right Be_Right is offline

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    Feb 12th, 2008 (2/12/2008 12:48am) in reply to bgils

    This was early in the FTOPS #9. I lead out slightly less than 1/2 the pot after hitting the set. Not sure if I played it right on later streets but at least he didn't check behind on the river.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #5203480604: FTOPS Event #9 (35826683), Table 502 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:28:34 ET - 2008/02/10
    Seat 1: Kliebert (2,985)
    Seat 2: oh hi (2,490)
    Seat 3: IWEARGOGGLES (2,985)
    Seat 4: P0KERPR0 (2,610)
    Seat 5: 5iveofaKind (2,160)
    Seat 6: SamH133 (3,085)
    Seat 7: Be_Right (4,660)
    Seat 8: Baxta76 (3,015)
    Seat 9: The Yid (3,010)
    5iveofaKind posts the small blind of 20
    SamH133 posts the big blind of 40
    The button is in seat #4
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Be_Right [2h 2d]
    Be_Right calls 40
    Baxta76 folds
    The Yid has 15 seconds left to act
    The Yid folds
    Kliebert calls 40
    oh hi folds
    IWEARGOGGLES folds
    P0KERPR0 calls 40
    5iveofaKind folds
    SamH133 checks
    *** FLOP *** [9h Tc 2s]
    SamH133 checks
    Be_Right bets 80
    Kliebert folds
    P0KERPR0 calls 80
    SamH133 folds
    *** TURN *** [9h Tc 2s] [Qc]
    Be_Right checks
    P0KERPR0 bets 280
    Be_Right calls 280
    *** RIVER *** [9h Tc 2s Qc] [6d]
    Be_Right checks
    P0KERPR0 bets 600
    Be_Right calls 600
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    P0KERPR0 shows [Ts Qh] two pair, Queens and Tens
    Be_Right shows [2h 2d] three of a kind, Twos
    Be_Right wins the pot (2,100) with three of a kind, Twos
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2,100 | Rake 0
    Board: [9h Tc 2s Qc 6d]
    Seat 1: Kliebert folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: oh hi didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: IWEARGOGGLES didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: P0KERPR0 (button) showed [Ts Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens
    Seat 5: 5iveofaKind (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 6: SamH133 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: Be_Right showed [2h 2d] and won (2,100) with three of a kind, Twos
    Seat 8: Baxta76 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: The Yid didn't bet (folded)
  5. GT_FO_d0nk GT_FO_d0nk is offline

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    Feb 12th, 2008 (2/12/2008 1:29am) in reply to Be_Right

    you actually set up the check raise on the river, why didn't you follow threw...no draws hit, so unless he happens to have called you with an inside straight draw on the flop, you have him....alternately, you could have check raised the turn as well, then lead out the river if he called, but ck/calling the river is VERY weak, imo
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