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  1. not sure what te rules are.
    me and other player both exremly short,and forced all in, other shorty is sitting out, and mucked his hand preflop, should i be entitled the 5th place? regardless what i hold. can he win since he mucked his hand preflop while having no chips left?
    would like to hear your opinion thx.

    pokerstars Game #31493029887: Tournament #186312381, $50+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2009/08/11 2:00:24 ET
    Table '186312381 1' 10-max Seat #10 is the button
    Seat 2: crz1203 (35 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 3: sll0037 (4670 in chips)
    Seat 5: vunne (3775 in chips)
    Seat 6: mdbroadwell (2635 in chips)
    Seat 8: dprociak (3865 in chips)
    Seat 10: casado85 (20 in chips)
    crz1203: posts the ante 30
    sll0037: posts the ante 30
    vunne: posts the ante 30
    mdbroadwell: posts the ante 30
    dprociak: posts the ante 30
    casado85: posts the ante 20 and is all-in
    crz1203: posts small blind 5 and is all-in
    sll0037: posts big blind 300
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to casado85 [8s 8d]
    vunne: raises 300 to 600
    mdbroadwell: folds
    dprociak: folds
    crz1203: folds
    sll0037: calls 300
    *** FLOP *** [6h 5h 2c]
    sll0037: checks
    vunne: checks
    *** TURN *** [6h 5h 2c] [Jc]
    sll0037: checks
    vunne: checks
    *** RIVER *** [6h 5h 2c Jc] [As]
    sll0037: bets 300
    vunne: calls 300
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    sll0037: shows [Qc Ac] (a pair of Aces)
    vunne: shows [Qs Ad] (a pair of Aces)
    sll0037 collected 895 from side pot-2
    vunne collected 895 from side pot-2
    sll0037 collected 33 from side pot-1
    vunne collected 32 from side pot-1
    casado85: mucks hand
    sll0037 collected 60 from main pot
    vunne collected 60 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1975 Main pot 120. Side pot-1 65. Side pot-2 1790. | Rake 0
    Board [6h 5h 2c Jc As]
    Seat 2: crz1203 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: sll0037 (big blind) showed [Qc Ac] and won (988) with a pair of Aces
    Seat 5: vunne showed [Qs Ad] and won (987) with a pair of Aces
    Seat 6: mdbroadwell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: dprociak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 10: casado85 (button) mucked [8s 8d]
     
  2. Player w/ the most chips to start the hand wins since you both lost the main pot... muck pre or not

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