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Weird hand in The Sunday Brawl; Set of 4's

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  1. Th3_Ic0n Th3_Ic0n is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 2:36pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #8458399991: The Sunday Brawl (62317891), Table 156 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:16:09 ET - 2008/10/12
    Seat 1: rl222 (3,365)
    Seat 2: hillbomber (2,610)
    Seat 3: JJ791 (2,520)
    Seat 4: kidwhowon (3,150)
    Seat 5: DREKE (4,290)
    Seat 6: OtherSense (2,820)
    Seat 7: thereal_bandito (6,060)
    Seat 8: Th3_Ic0n (2,980)
    Seat 9: e2202 (2,265)
    rl222 posts the small blind of 15
    hillbomber posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Th3_Ic0n [4s 4c]
    JJ791 folds
    kidwhowon calls 30
    DREKE calls 30
    OtherSense folds
    thereal_bandito folds
    Th3_Ic0n calls 30
    e2202 has 15 seconds left to act
    e2202 raises to 120
    rl222 folds
    hillbomber has 15 seconds left to act
    hillbomber folds
    kidwhowon calls 90
    DREKE calls 90
    Th3_Ic0n calls 90
    *** FLOP *** [Kc As Jh]
    kidwhowon checks
    DREKE checks
    Th3_Ic0n checks
    e2202 checks
    *** TURN *** [Kc As Jh] [4h]
    kidwhowon has 15 seconds left to act
    kidwhowon has timed out
    kidwhowon checks
    DREKE bets 525
    Th3_Ic0n has 15 seconds left to act
    Th3_Ic0n calls 525
    e2202 folds
    kidwhowon folds
    *** RIVER *** [Kc As Jh 4h] [5h]
    DREKE bets 3,645, and is all in
    Th3_Ic0n has 15 seconds left to act
    Th3_Ic0n has requested TIME
    Th3_Ic0n folds
    Uncalled bet of 3,645 returned to DREKE
    DREKE mucks
    DREKE wins the pot (1,575)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1,575 | Rake 0
    Board: [Kc As Jh 4h 5h]
    Seat 1: rl222 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: hillbomber (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: JJ791 didn't bet (folded)

    This is still real early and I don't think its worth it at this stage. I am interested as to what kind of hand you put the guy on. Q,10? AJ? AK? AQ? I severely doubt higher set.

    EDIT: per request of one retard.
  2. seanwal23 seanwal23 is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 2:41pm) in reply to Th3_Ic0n

    lol at someone playing in a 240 dollar tourny and not knowing the difference between trips and a set...come on
  3. Th3_Ic0n Th3_Ic0n is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 2:44pm) in reply to seanwal23

    For the love of god you know what I meant. Let me fix it for you Mr. Picky.
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  4. PocketRuners PocketRuners is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 2:44pm) in reply to Th3_Ic0n

    It's hard to know where you stand on that board but it might be easier if you had raised the turn. YOu let him draw for free to a lot of cards that coudl have made straights or potentially the flush (although thats a longshot). Now he overbets the river with a shove into a dangerous board and your bottom set doesn't look quite so pretty. If you flat the turn I assume you're trying to trap or are reallly afraid of this guy having made broadway or a higher set. Since he limp called preflop I'd say higher set is unlikely so really QT is all you need to fear. I'd snap call that shove on the river as played, but you can slowroll call being october and all.
  5. B3_L3gend B3_L3gend is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 2:44pm) in reply to Th3_Ic0n

    This is a pretty tough spot, but with the information I think you're going against a strong two pair or a possible flush on the river. The flush doesn't seem likely due to the ridiculous overbet and he would want value with such a strong hand. Dreke may have flopped a monster and checked the flop to induce a bet from the players in a later position, but it just seems like such a ridiculous bet. With all the potential of monsters I feel you should go ahead and lay it down to choose a better spot. Q 10 is possible, higher set, or a rivered flush. Go ahead and muck, pick a better spot
  6. adam_mc adam_mc is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 3:06pm) in reply to B3_L3gend

    Raise the turn.
  7. Th3_Ic0n Th3_Ic0n is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 3:11pm) in reply to Th3_Ic0n

    For those suggesting raise turn how much do I raise, all in?
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  8. adam_mc adam_mc is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 5:55pm) in reply to Th3_Ic0n

    You are essentially raising all in by raising at all so it really does not matter what you raise it to, whatever will be more apt to get your opponent to stick it in be it a shove or a normal like 3x his bet leaving him room to shove still. Just raise the turn.
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