weird spot with 33 in sng

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  1. TheDude12424 TheDude12424 is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 4:33pm)

    PokerStars Game #22622074975: Tournament #124878694, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/12/04 16:29:58 ET
    Table '124878694 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: NGC224 (1295 in chips)
    Seat 3: HMMK80 (2280 in chips)
    Seat 4: PrinzPorno89 (3180 in chips)
    Seat 5: toutoune67 (1550 in chips)
    Seat 8: BEmmons24 (3769 in chips)
    Seat 9: muphues (1426 in chips)
    muphues: posts small blind 50
    NGC224: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to BEmmons24 [3h 3s]
    HMMK80: folds
    PrinzPorno89: folds
    toutoune67: folds
    BEmmons24: ????

    i thought about raising to about 250 but that left me wide open for a shove. i thought folding might be too weak. i thought a shove might work. i dunno which is right tho
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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 4:38pm) in reply to TheDude12424

    Shoving KILLS folding.

    <TABLE class=simple cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>BU</TD><TD><TD><TD>37.6%, 22+ Ax+ K4s+ K9o+ Q6s+ QTo+ J7s+ J9o+ T7s+ T9o 96s+ 86s+ 75s+ 65s <<your proper shove range</TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD><TD>8.7%, 77+ A9s+ ATo+ <<what SB should call with</TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>3.5%, TT+ AKs AKo </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD><TD>11.3%, 66+ A7s+ A9o+ KJs+ <<what BB should call with</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    Since many players call too wide, I might reduce my shoving range down to 30% or so to be safe.

    33 isn't close, and the fact that you asked about it leads me to believe that you are possibly open-folding hands as strong as Q9s or QJo in similar situations.

    Open up a bit when you have the lead. It's going to make a difference.
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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 5:12pm) in reply to Jennifear

    thanks. i ended up open shoving and the bb called with AJs.
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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 5:24pm) in reply to TheDude12424

    I would have just made a standard raise and folded to a shove myself.This is probably why Jenn is crushing and Im not though.

    Question if I may though;
    Why shove a 37BB stack?
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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 5:27pm) in reply to jasonpariah

    the effective stack is only 14 bbs
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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 5:31pm) in reply to TheDude12424

     
    Originally Posted by TheDude12424 View Post

    the effective stack is only 14 bbs

    I see now yes,you play thier stack in this situation not your own(light dawns on marble head LOL).

    Tnx for responding.
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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 5:55pm) in reply to jasonpariah

    Now all I need is Jenn to stop uping her price just as I get there,been after lessons with her for a while now.Got the $200 together now she charges $300.I"ll get there one day LOL.
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