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Weird Spot in Event 10...underrepped QQ, WWYD on flop

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  1. TheBulldog3 TheBulldog3 is offline

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    Mar 10th, 2011 (3/10/2011 5:13am)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #28888708325: MiniFTOPS Event #10 (213061364), Table 734 - 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:43:49 ET - 2011/03/09
    Seat 1: TheBulldog3 (18,263)
    Seat 2: Killa_Ky75 (13,698)
    Seat 3: Hestus911 (6,835), is sitting out
    Seat 4: younggiambi (11,943)
    Seat 5: becomelegendary (16,384)
    Seat 6: briks87 (12,622)
    TheBulldog3 antes 50
    Killa_Ky75 antes 50
    Hestus911 antes 50
    younggiambi antes 50
    becomelegendary antes 50
    briks87 antes 50
    younggiambi posts the small blind of 200
    becomelegendary posts the big blind of 400
    The button is in seat #3
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to TheBulldog3 [Qc Qs]
    briks87 raises to 885
    TheBulldog3 calls 885
    Killa_Ky75 folds
    Hestus911 folds
    younggiambi folds
    Hestus911 has been disconnected
    becomelegendary calls 485
    *** FLOP *** [6s 5c 5h]
    becomelegendary checks
    briks87 has 15 seconds left to act
    briks87 bets 1,222
    TheBulldog3 has 15 seconds left to act
    TheBulldog3 raises to 3,025
    becomelegendary folds
    briks87 has 15 seconds left to act
    briks87 has requested TIME
    briks87 raises to 4,828
    ???

    I had been pretty active at this table, but villain hadn't been loose from EP so I thought that 3betting would get rid of alot of hands i wanted to keep in. Also, think flatting really disguises my hand. On the flop I raise expecting him to shove a high % of the time. If he shoves I snap-call, but wwyd when he clicks it back? Just think its an awkward spot. Thanks for input.
  2. doomed222 doomed222 is offline

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    Mar 10th, 2011 (3/10/2011 5:19am) in reply to TheBulldog3

    i'd wager all my chips.
  3. dalix88 dalix88 is offline

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    Mar 10th, 2011 (3/10/2011 5:44am) in reply to doomed222

    Goofy spot really, as most villains would not click it back with 77-JJ here. I suck at reading strange lines like these preflop, but if villain is not a clown I would expect to see AA or a boat a decent amount of the time here. There may be quite alot that we beat in his range as well, so call flop-re-evaluate seems good, hopefully we can get more info from his sizing and the cards that peel off....quite possibly folding to a strong turn bet.

    EDIT: Actually he has less than a potsized bet left on turn... I didn't see that, call flop and call turn, not folding.
    Edited By: dalix88 Mar 10th, 2011 at 06:29 AM
     
  4. Sagacious Man Sagacious Man is offline

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    Mar 10th, 2011 (3/10/2011 6:13am) in reply to dalix88

    Weird. Mostly when this has happened to me it has been strong. This weird line should set off alarm bells and you can lose the minimum. Call and re-eval I think. He could be full of it and have something worse but l guess you need to follow your instinct and any subtleties should tip you to what he has. He could just be being stubborn bcause of your active image, trying to sieze control of the hand. Or he could really have a monster, I think monster is more likely. You mentioned you have been active, so I'd level myself into calling down if it is not too expensive.

    Last night I was faced with a weird line and look what I was up against, thank god I didn't stack off.

    Board ran out 647KK.

    From the pre-flop min-raise I thought opponent had a big pair, and I had great pot odds to call and was deep stacked. I Had 77 for top set on the flop. I raised the flop and called the turn, opponent gave off a timing tell that made me suspect the K helped him, and the bet sizing looked very sly like he was trying to induce something. He bet the river under half the pot, I thought for a bit and levelled myself that AK was more likely than KK and I had to raise the river bet, so I reraised it, only to have it clicked back. Given the pre-flop action and the way the hand played out, was pretty sure I was up against quad Kings, so I just sigh called because once again great pot odds.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #28863073804: $18,000 Rush Guar (Rebuy) (224258115), Table 154 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:08:17 AEST - 2011/03/09 [04:08:17 ET - 2011/03/09]
    Seat 1: Clownlupo (24,366)
    Seat 2: oldsarpe1984 (22,307)
    Seat 3: haoger (23,042)
    Seat 4: Talon Hawkins (31,760)
    Seat 5: reichricchi (11,819)
    Seat 6: escouade14 (19,595)
    Seat 7: ggnorm89 (15,988)
    Seat 8: Bettina2345 (22,896)
    Seat 9: carly79486 (6,315)
    Clownlupo antes 25
    oldsarpe1984 antes 25
    haoger antes 25
    Talon Hawkins antes 25
    reichricchi antes 25
    escouade14 antes 25
    ggnorm89 antes 25
    Bettina2345 antes 25
    carly79486 antes 25
    oldsarpe1984 posts the small blind of 120
    haoger posts the big blind of 240
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Talon Hawkins [7s 7c]
    Talon Hawkins raises to 480
    reichricchi folds
    escouade14 folds
    ggnorm89 folds
    Bettina2345 raises to 720
    carly79486 folds
    Clownlupo folds
    oldsarpe1984 folds
    haoger folds
    Talon Hawkins calls 240
    *** FLOP *** [6c 4d 7d]
    Talon Hawkins checks
    Bettina2345 bets 720
    Talon Hawkins raises to 2,040
    Bettina2345 calls 1,320
    *** TURN *** [6c 4d 7d] [Kd]
    Talon Hawkins checks
    Bettina2345 bets 960
    Talon Hawkins calls 960
    *** RIVER *** [6c 4d 7d Kd] [Kh]
    Talon Hawkins checks
    Bettina2345 has 15 seconds left to act
    Bettina2345 bets 2,400
    Talon Hawkins has 15 seconds left to act
    Talon Hawkins raises to 6,840
    Bettina2345 has 15 seconds left to act
    Bettina2345 raises to 11,760
    Talon Hawkins calls 4,920
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Bettina2345 shows [Kc Ks] four of a kind, Kings
    Talon Hawkins mucks
    Bettina2345 wins the pot (31,545) with four of a kind, Kings
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 31,545 | Rake 0
    Board: [6c 4d 7d Kd Kh]
    Seat 1: Clownlupo (button) folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: oldsarpe1984 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: haoger (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: Talon Hawkins mucked [7s 7c] - a full house, Sevens full of Kings
    Seat 5: reichricchi folded before the Flop
    Seat 6: escouade14 folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: ggnorm89 folded before the Flop
    Seat 8: Bettina2345 showed [Kc Ks] and won (31,545) with four of a kind, Kings
    Seat 9: carly79486 folded before the Flop
  5. pokerproplaya08 pokerproplaya08 is offline

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    Mar 10th, 2011 (3/10/2011 6:21am) in reply to Sagacious Man

    flat flop bet then call off t+r
  6. TheBulldog3 TheBulldog3 is offline

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    Mar 10th, 2011 (3/10/2011 6:30am) in reply to pokerproplaya08

     
    Originally Posted by pokerproplaya08 View Post

    flat flop bet then call off t+r

    flat the 3bet or flat the c-bet?
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