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  1. djames88 djames88 is offline

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    Oct 17th, 2010 (10/17/2010 4:36am)

    So the villain is 34/20 over 56 hands relatively small sample size, haven't seen him do anything to crazy, not sure if the turn check is awful, but on the river is this always value vs 3 other people or is there going to be enough missed flush draws to make a call okay? ty for feedback. This is a 30r on UB/AP fwiw

    Stage #399321528 Tourney ID 5795087 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 100 - 2010-10-16 20:13:48 (ET)
    Table: 3 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - AFISHYFISHYA (15,865 in chips)
    Seat 2 - PENSIONPLAN1 (7,817 in chips)
    Seat 3 - TINYELVIS58 (4,575 in chips)
    Seat 4 - DRKELLEY (5,980 in chips)
    Seat 5 - BLACKRIVERRAT (11,052 in chips)
    Seat 6 - O_BROTHER (2,555 in chips)
    Seat 7 - JUICE1 (7,735 in chips)
    Seat 8 - ILPK99 (11,786 in chips)
    Seat 9 - DAN O O DAN (6,205 in chips)
    TINYELVIS58 - Posts small blind 50
    DRKELLEY - Posts big blind 100
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to ILPK99 [Jd Ad]
    BLACKRIVERRAT - Calls 100
    O_BROTHER - Folds
    JUICE1 - Folds
    ILPK99 - Raises 300 to 300
    DAN O O DAN - Folds
    AFISHYFISHYA - Folds
    PENSIONPLAN1 - Folds
    TINYELVIS58 - Calls 250
    DRKELLEY - Calls 200
    BLACKRIVERRAT - Calls 200
    *** FLOP *** [5h Jh 8c]
    TINYELVIS58 - Checks
    DRKELLEY - Checks
    BLACKRIVERRAT - Checks
    ILPK99 - Bets 565
    TINYELVIS58 - Calls 565
    DRKELLEY - Calls 565
    BLACKRIVERRAT - Calls 565
    *** TURN *** [5h Jh 8c] [Ks]
    TINYELVIS58 - Checks
    DRKELLEY - Checks
    BLACKRIVERRAT - Checks
    ILPK99 - Checks
    *** RIVER *** [5h Jh 8c Ks] [2s]
    TINYELVIS58 - All-In 3,710
    DRKELLEY - Folds
    BLACKRIVERRAT - Folds
    Edited By: djames88 Oct 17th, 2010 at 04:37 AM
    Reason: added 30r note.
     
  2. njw11 njw11 is offline

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    Oct 17th, 2010 (10/17/2010 6:09am) in reply to djames88

    id fold the fishes that missed invole a king there most the time and coulda been beat before that might be a wrong line by me but im drunk so whatever might be able to give u a better awnser tomorrow
     
  3. djames88 djames88 is offline

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    Oct 17th, 2010 (10/17/2010 6:18am) in reply to njw11

    For a drunk response I think thats pretty solid, lol. I think it probably is a fold, don't think hes spewing enough to make it a profitable call, just me and him in the pot might change it a little.
     
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  4. njw11 njw11 is offline

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    Oct 17th, 2010 (10/17/2010 6:30am) in reply to djames88

    for sure and if its a reg and or if u have a read it def changes but normally i would of called which im guessing u did n he had kj but im trying to fold nowadays when i know im beat instead of punting tournys

    maybe k10hh
     
  5. Mcschnucks Mcschnucks is offline

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    Oct 17th, 2010 (10/17/2010 8:55am) in reply to njw11

    after 3 calls Im really feeling like a set could be getting funky on the flop. esp if tin quick checked the turn, I suspect he flopped a set. he was hoping someone would reraise on the flop so he could happily ship the rest of his stack. Then he sees what would be a dream turn card, and quick check into 3 people. could be a value shove on the end with KJ too, he may play this the same. Could also be missed draw, but cant imagine him shipping there into 3 people with a missed draw as he knows the river is such a brick, he may get called down lightly.. but maybe im wrong.. so 55/88 imo..
    Edited By: Mcschnucks Oct 17th, 2010 at 08:56 AM
     
  6. eDaN eDaN is offline

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    Oct 17th, 2010 (10/17/2010 10:26am) in reply to Mcschnucks

     
    Originally Posted by Mcschnucks View Post

    after 3 calls Im really feeling like a set could be getting funky on the flop. esp if tin quick checked the turn, I suspect he flopped a set. he was hoping someone would reraise on the flop so he could happily ship the rest of his stack. Then he sees what would be a dream turn card, and quick check into 3 people. could be a value shove on the end with KJ too, he may play this the same. Could also be missed draw, but cant imagine him shipping there into 3 people with a missed draw as he knows the river is such a brick, he may get called down lightly.. but maybe im wrong.. so 55/88 imo..

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