Yea so im officially forced to quit poker. No money. No Skill. No nothing. I cannot beat the game, I cannot win. I've gone bust for the last time and I say farewell. Time to find a new hobby. I really appreciate this community though. It has been fun.

btw FUCK 1 OUTER pokerstars. WHEN 1 OUTERS HIT MORE THAN 50% OF THE TIME OVER MY 6 MONTH CAREER, AND 20+ OUTERS NEVER HIT WHEN I HAVE THEM,IT REALLY SUCKS.(last rant)

Sorry, I used to have the same attitude, i kept trying and trying again. Then I went bust, and tried some more. Simply, it has happened too much and I finally realized I just don't have what it takes to win in the long run. So, thanks for the encouragement, but I really do need to try as hard as possible to stay away.

Sorry to hear that. I appreciate all the input you've had at this site! Anyway good luck and maybe see you after a break.

You'll be back as soon as you get your next paycheck...

Just keep on grinding!

SNG ACE,

I'd be willing to front you some money if you are serious about learning.

We can work out something, I'm sure.

Oh, as long as you don't ever, ever, ever complain about bad beats to me :)

Let me know.

Ace,

I have degree in psychology and have read many, many books on the psychology of gaming profitably. IMHO I think a couple of things would be helpful for you, as they have proven to help be be a long-term winning player both live and online.

1. switch sites- your subconcious mind doesn't know the difference between what you believe to be true and what is true. If you have a preconceived notion that you will lose on the river or are not going to win no matter what you do....your play will be affected.

2. Take a break- give yourself some time to clear your thoughts. I think the biggest edge I have over my opponents is my ability to focus. If you are thinking about how bad it's gonna suck to get one outed on the river then you won't be focused enough to be accumulating chips so the one outer isn't going to put you out.

3. Play at a level which allows you to "play"- BIGGEST MISTAKE I SEE. People deposit $100 and they are playing at $25 NLHE room...or $10 SNG's. Play at a level where it is fun to play and you will gain insight and focus that you never knew you had. Barry Greenstein calls this extrinsic factors....it's having some other reason besides the money to win..very important and a major driving factor for 99.9% of winning players and successful people (even if they don't know it)

Let me reinterate on #3--this is not about bankroll management. I am not an expert on that and don't want to give anybody advice on it. This is about playing at a level where playing is fun or your are able to focus outside the monetary benefits of play.

Let me also say that there is nothing to be ashamed of for playing in a $5 room...funny as this may sound I play in $2 rooms all the time on dise when I'm just trying to relax. My BB/100 is something like 250 and it's a blast. Sometimes I'll play a $.50 SNG. When i go to the casinos to play 20/40 and 40/80 and 5/10NL I almost always end up playing the penny poker online to try and unwind after grinding for twenty hours.

4. Keep very intricate and accurate records- they don't lie and they open up areas that need improrvement. I have never seen a jump in the quality of my cash game play as when I got pokertracker. I still have never looked up an opponent, I just watch my own stats.

5. Still get another hobby- I talk to people all the time who are just obsessed. Be honest with yourself and figure out how many hours a day or week you can emotionally comfortably play and stick to it.

GL to you and everyone else reading. I hope something in here will help someone enjoy the game more and become more profitable.

JCARR12

PS. I spell and use grammar like a 2nd grader.

PS2. Always watch out for my wife at the tables...she plays under the same name and is much better than me!!!!...lol

I see Im not the only one thats on a bad streak, pokerprochecy had me at 42% cash rate for my $10 sngs, but then I had to cash out some $$ then started all over at $5 sngs and I've just been getting rapped by the 10 4 6 flops when i have AA against 10 4. Not sure what stakes you play but I wouldn't give up, Im down to my last $24, I'll probably do 4 $6 sngs, if I dont win, then I'll just wait till I get a summer job and put some $$ back in, probably a bad idea, but I like the advice of not giving up, theres just too much money to be won in online poker, there are always freerolls to build it back up too.

I sometimes think that the Big Guy upstairs doesn't want me to play poker,because of some of the beats I've taken.Just this morning at work(I just worked all night BTW)a guy we call call "card lotto" called my pre-flop raise with 73os,I held Ad Jd.The flop came down A 9 2 rainbow,he checked and I put him all in.He called and the hands were turned over and we all laughed.Then I said watch it come 7-7,and it f'ing did(grrr).

Just slow down on your playing,and like some others have said join PXfactor & RPT,then just play them SNG's like they were for a WPT championship.Things will turn around!!!

when I got home from work this morning I played a $10 SNG on AP.I was soooo card dead,after 40 hands I was down to $325.I battled and battled and ended up taking 1st place.

I guess all you can do in poker,is your job(getting your chips in with the best of it)

walk it off,and reload,you'll be fine.

Try working on other forms of poker and take a break from hold em. Seriously though there is a lot less variance in a game like stud. Just think about it.

Is that all I need to do is say im going to quit? Id love to but that would be a lie. Seriously gidders if you are going to do this type of thing you ought to have an essay contest or something. I am like the ultimate student, I follow all the top players and watch as much as I can. I will bring you an apple?!?!?!?!?

also what jcar12 said, i don't think i could put it in any better way than he did. He is right on the money with his tips. He has some very very good advice.

hey-

It's been my experience that to be especially skilled at <span>any</span> craft it takes years and years of practice. You may get discouraged when some of the ranked players write about having immediate success and an apparent natural understanding of the game - for the rest of us mortals it takes thousands of hours of play until the nuances of the game become second nature. I started playing a little more than two years ago. At first I donked away about $200 before I started making consistent money in low-limit sitngos and cash games. I've read more than a dozen books, read hundreds of posts on this forum and 2 + 2, and I am still a low-limit player. I feel like my tournament game is just now starting to develop, as I now have the ability to "pull the trigger" and do what it takes to make it deep, I just need to stop donking my big-stack away during the end game. :)

I strongly urge anyone who is <span>seriously</span> interested in becoming a great player to not expect immediate results, because you are going to have to put in an absolute ton of hard work. Stop posting your bad beats, stop thinking about bad beats, and start focusing exclusively on improving your game. One of the characteristics of a great player is to not let the downswings of the game have a negative effect on your mentality. If you don't have the time and the patience to develop your game, you should do yourself a favor and lose all poker-related ambitions you may have. You're just going to be donating money if you don't.

Jcarr, what field in pyschology you have your degree in?

SNG ACE, don't listen to all of these other people. The reality is that the vast majority of players are long term losers. I'm not saying that you will be, but there are so many other things to consider.

Your profile says that you are a student. This is the time to study while having fun and partying. You only get one chance to go to college and I think if you continue playing poker all the time, you will regret it and feel you wasted your chance.

Study hard, graduate and keep as many of your options open as possible.