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Were you once a loose aggressive donk?

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  1. damnstraight damnstraight is offline

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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 8:14pm)

    Just trying to understand the mentality of these players so if you once played a poor loose aggressive style it would be helpful. Is it just a lack of understanding of the game and hand values odds etc., they think poker is all bluffing, an excessive desire to gamble or an inflated ego and a belief that they can outplay everyone at the table.
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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 8:48pm) in reply to damnstraight

     
    Originally Posted by damnstraight View Post

    Just trying to understand the mentality of these players so if you once played a poor loose aggressive style it would be helpful. Is it just a lack of understanding of the game and hand values odds etc., they think poker is all bluffing, an excessive desire to gamble or an inflated ego and a belief that they can outplay everyone at the table.

     
  3. pikappraider78 pikappraider78 is offline

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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 8:50pm) in reply to damnstraight

    yah i used to shove A 10 with 3000 chips at the 10-20 level cuz i had an ace and a ten.
     
  4. ZFT_514 ZFT_514 is offline

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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 8:53pm) in reply to pikappraider78

    ur obv too tight.. read up
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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 9:03pm) in reply to pikappraider78

     
    Originally Posted by pikappraider78 View Post

    yah i used to shove A 10 with 3000 chips at the 10-20 level cuz i had an ace and a ten.

    Compared to what I have been seeing lately, that can be considered tight. Now i would understand a noob making some dumb plays but i have ran players on sharkscope with 2000-3000 sngs behind them and they are still making ridiculous plays, 4 betting all in with air. You think they would catch on at some point, not that I am complaining. What I can't figure out is how players that dumb can earn enough of an income to afford to play.
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  6. ChAzZz18 ChAzZz18 is offline

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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 9:10pm) in reply to damnstraight

    You will struggle to find a top player who isnt Loose Aggressive.
     
  7. Zota15 Zota15 is offline

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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 9:14pm) in reply to ChAzZz18

    Early in a tournament, i want everyone at my table to be uber loose aggresive, late in a tourney i want weak tight at my table.
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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 9:16pm) in reply to ChAzZz18

     
    Originally Posted by ChAzZz18 View Post

    You will struggle to find a top player who isnt Loose Aggressive.

    false all are aggreesive some are loose some tight some medium. you def dont need to be a lagggggg to suceed though
     
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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 9:20pm) in reply to ChAzZz18

     
    Originally Posted by ChAzZz18 View Post

    You will struggle to find a top player who isnt Loose Aggressive.

    Not saying loose aggressive is bad if you know what you are doing and I am sure there are a lot of top players that do not play a predominantly loose aggressive style.

    I'm talking about low stakes, particularly in PLO. There are players that play 80-100% of the pots and raise about half.
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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 9:21pm) in reply to Zota15

     
    Originally Posted by Zota15 View Post

    Early in a tournament, i want everyone at my table to be uber loose aggresive, late in a tourney i want weak tight at my table.

    Don't we all unfortunately weak tight players get blinded out before the bubble.
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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 9:49pm) in reply to damnstraight

    Re:Were you once a loose aggressive donk?

    ...preeeeeettttty much still am
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  12. wvumaniac2 wvumaniac2 is offline

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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 9:52pm) in reply to Gags30

    were not supposed to be lagtards anymore? who decided this?
     
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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 11:49pm) in reply to Gags30

     
    Originally Posted by Gags30 View Post

    Re:Were you once a loose aggressive donk?

    ...preeeeeettttty much still am

  14. joeykukzMSU joeykukzMSU is offline

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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 12:39am) in reply to Jukess

    • <LI> 2006 LAG is todays rock
      </LI> <LI> 2007 LAG is Gus Hanses image
      </LI> <LI> 2008 LAG is soo cooooooooooool
      </LI> <LI> 2009 TAG is back in the form of the 2006 LAG, cuz the donkies are sooo 2008
      </LI>
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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 12:55am) in reply to damnstraight

    I played loose and aggressive once in a tourny. But now I just nit blankets.
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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 12:57am) in reply to damnstraight

    My progression:

    Nit --> TAG --> winning player --> Dipthrong protege --> LAG --> losing player
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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 1:16am) in reply to Zota15

     
    Originally Posted by Zota15 View Post


    Early in a tournament, i want everyone at my table to be uber loose aggresive, late in a tourney i want weak tight at my table.

    My dream as well.
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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 10:13am) in reply to Joshuwgb

    surely the best players arnt predominantly one style or the other but know when each style is profitiable depending on table image etc etc wish i cud do this!
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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 10:44am) in reply to bigdogpckt5s

    to me, when someone says they play loose/aggressive, i take that as "i play bad, and just hope to get lucky, and when i do, i mistake that for skill" :)
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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 10:56am) in reply to damnstraight

    I definitely started this way. Part of it was definitely a lack of understanding (hey, I have an ace, that's a good starting hand). Part of it though is that it works to some extent. I might throw my money in with a A5, but I get called by AJ and suck out or by KQ and I'm flipping.

    Not only that, if you bet every street, you can get people to fold out. So, there is some reward in it, if not long term.

    To be honest, if I had to take a raw player, I'd rather take a loose agressive donk over a calling station. You can't teach the guts to push with nothing, but you can teach someone that it isn't always the best to go full force in every hand (or I should say, the later is easier to teach).
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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 11:08am) in reply to cincykid666

    Not sure where I stand in the poker world but I have been playing the $1/45 on ps
    and to me they are easy to beat for the most part. The biggest thing I have found is that
    people will call you with a A/rag and top pair is golden to most players. I take some pretty
    bad beats where most players should have never been in the hand to begin with but they
    obviously either like to gamble or have no clue what the value of their hand is. Either way I
    like having these players at my table because they give thier chips away. When I started
    playing cards I played alot like these players. I always thought my A was automatic win and
    would rarely fold it. I think they just have no basic concept of the game. Thats my .02 but
    then again, im not really sure if I know what I am doing somtimes. I find myself calling down
    some of these players when I know Im beat just because its hard for me to believe they
    played 3 6 off and hit there straight on the river...........

    On a side note....I play 1-5 dollars on line but when I play live I will play anywhere from $60 to
    $350 for a tourney. And the play live at these stakes are just as bad as playing $1 tourneys
    on line.....so the donkeys are (even me) at every level of buy in.
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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 11:14am) in reply to ChAzZz18

     
    Originally Posted by ChAzZz18 View Post

    You will struggle to find a top player who isnt Loose Aggressive.

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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 12:10pm) in reply to damnstraight

    Nit>Nitty Spewtard>LAG>LAgtard>drunken LAGtard>Drunken Monkey LAGtard>Drunk.

    rinse repeat.
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  24. RGC2005 RGC2005 is offline

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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 12:23pm) in reply to damnstraight

    LAG does not equal MANIAC.
    Most Maniac players died off with FLHE.
    My friends and the people I play live with think I run good since LAG almost always works for me with those TAGs, NITs and self admitted Donks..
    Online, not so much................ I suck online.
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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 12:31pm) in reply to pikappraider78

    no
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