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  1. Synappzz Synappzz is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2010 (6/21/2010 3:28am)

    pokerstars Game #45785675961: Tournament #282438247, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (2000/4000) - 2010/06/20 22:20:53 ET
    Table '282438247 87' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: shyal (36020 in chips)
    Seat 2: razzuru (5204 in chips)
    Seat 3: Chateau (48100 in chips)
    Seat 4: leto sebasti (79940 in chips)
    Seat 5: nicu35 (78445 in chips)
    Seat 6: joaco59 (77382 in chips)
    Seat 7: Synappzz (54168 in chips)
    Seat 8: carbide77 (34320 in chips)
    Seat 9: Lady Maria17 (50494 in chips)
    shyal: posts the ante 500
    razzuru: posts the ante 500
    Chateau: posts the ante 500
    leto sebasti: posts the ante 500
    nicu35: posts the ante 500
    joaco59: posts the ante 500
    Synappzz: posts the ante 500
    carbide77: posts the ante 500
    Lady Maria17: posts the ante 500
    joaco59: posts small blind 2000
    Synappzz: posts big blind 4000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Synappzz [8h Jd]
    carbide77: raises 29820 to 33820 and is all-in
    Lady Maria17: folds
    shyal: folds
    razzuru has timed out
    razzuru: folds
    razzuru is sitting out
    Chateau: folds
    leto sebasti: folds
    razzuru has returned
    nicu35: folds
    joaco59: folds
    Synappzz: ?
  2. cream420 cream420 is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2010 (6/21/2010 3:35am) in reply to Synappzz

    i call and see a flop
     
  3. jeppg1111 jeppg1111 is offline Disabled account

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    Jun 21st, 2010 (6/21/2010 3:43am) in reply to cream420

    easiest fold ever???
     
  4. FireballKid FireballKid is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2010 (6/21/2010 4:55am) in reply to jeppg1111

     
    Originally Posted by jeppg1111 View Post

    easiest fold ever???

    +1
  5. brownrugby brownrugby is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2010 (6/21/2010 5:01am) in reply to FireballKid

    haha if you dont know what to do here how did you even get this far
  6. Ace10Suted Ace10Suted is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2010 (6/21/2010 5:39am) in reply to Synappzz

    I want to believe this is a level, but I don't actually think it is.

    Fold fo sho. Just click the check/fold box when the hand is dealt to make things easier. Zero thought to calling any action at the table with this, except for razzuru's shove for just over 1 BB.
  7. Synappzz Synappzz is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2010 (6/21/2010 2:43pm) in reply to Ace10Suted

     
    Originally Posted by Ace10Suted View Post

    I want to believe this is a level, but I don't actually think it is.

    Fold fo sho. Just click the check/fold box when the hand is dealt to make things easier. Zero thought to calling any action at the table with this, except for razzuru's shove for just over 1 BB.

    Lol, no not a level. I am getting over 1.5 -1 to call, and he is shoving 8.5 BB's , which means he should be shoving pretty wide. I figured he's shove any pair, any 2 broadway cards, MAYBE some weak aces, and suited connectors 87+ . If I'm 40% against that range, then a call is mathematically correct. I don't run pokerstove while playing, I just try to estimate.

    I thought it was a marginal spot, guess I'm in the minority. If I was a bigger stack, or getting closer to 2-1, would be a easy call right?
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  8. dudlri dudlri is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2010 (6/21/2010 6:08pm) in reply to Synappzz

    u have <14bbs, and willing to put in 8bbs w J8 hoping you're 40/60?
    muck imo
  9. rayfox111 rayfox111 is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2010 (6/21/2010 6:11pm) in reply to Synappzz

    I dont care what the math says, fold it quick.
  10. Jennifear Jennifear is offline

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    Jun 22nd, 2010 (6/22/2010 12:22pm) in reply to rayfox111

    It's 29340 to call and 74140 will be the pot.

    29340/74140 = 39.54%.

    Using cEV only, you'll have to win the hand 39.54%+ of the time against whatever range he's shoving.

    Before we can make a +cEV call, we would have to put him on this range or looser:

    {22+ Ax, K7s+ KTo+ Q9s+ QJo J8s+ T8s+ 98s 87s}

    Hope that helps!
  11. Synappzz Synappzz is offline

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    Jun 22nd, 2010 (6/22/2010 2:24pm) in reply to Jennifear

    Thanks for the thoughtful analysis, Jen. The range I put him on was just a bit tighter than that, so in retrospect it was a fold.
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