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  1. spendincash spendincash is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2010 (2/8/2010 6:10pm)

    I am in the BB and flop bottom 2. What should I do...I am pretty new to PLO. Thanks for the help.

    pokerstars Game #39450297505: Tournament #240221707, $20+$2 USD Omaha No Limit - Level XVI (350/700) - 2010/02/08 19:06:24 ET
    Table '240221707 6' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: Killbot (3155 in chips)
    Seat 2: spendincash (21730 in chips)
    Seat 3: tepongolaspi (11050 in chips)
    Seat 4: faxe999 (4440 in chips)
    Seat 5: Pike (12970 in chips)
    Seat 6: Renato76 (1390 in chips)
    Seat 7: Gerakl777 (49845 in chips)
    Seat 8: e4effort (14880 in chips)
    Seat 9: ccotroneo (11365 in chips)
    Killbot: posts the ante 85
    spendincash: posts the ante 85
    tepongolaspi: posts the ante 85
    faxe999: posts the ante 85
    Pike: posts the ante 85
    Renato76: posts the ante 85
    Gerakl777: posts the ante 85
    e4effort: posts the ante 85
    ccotroneo: posts the ante 85
    Killbot: posts small blind 350
    spendincash: posts big blind 700
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to spendincash [8h 5c Ad Qc]
    tepongolaspi: calls 700
    faxe999: folds
    Pike: calls 700
    Renato76: folds
    Gerakl777: folds
    e4effort: calls 700
    ccotroneo: folds
    Killbot: calls 350
    spendincash: checks
    *** FLOP *** [8s Th 5d]
    Killbot: checks
    spendincash: checks
    tepongolaspi: checks
    Pike: checks
    e4effort: bets 2800
    Killbot: folds
    spendincash: folds
    tepongolaspi: folds
    Pike: folds
    Uncalled bet (2800) returned to e4effort
    e4effort collected 4265 from pot
    e4effort: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4265 | Rake 0
    Board [8s Th 5d]
    Seat 1: Killbot (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: spendincash (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: tepongolaspi folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: faxe999 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Pike folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: Renato76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Gerakl777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: e4effort collected (4265)
    Seat 9: ccotroneo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. herbstreet24 herbstreet24 is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2010 (2/8/2010 6:18pm) in reply to spendincash

    U did the right thing here, easy fold imo. Bottom two pair is total garbage in PLO.
  3. Mr Galt Mr Galt is offline sister-in-law's a ho

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    Feb 8th, 2010 (2/8/2010 6:20pm) in reply to herbstreet24

    ez fold unless you are HU v. super aggro
  4. jasament jasament is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2010 (2/8/2010 6:20pm) in reply to spendincash

    check/fold 100% of the time...only time to ever not check fold bottom two post flop is possibly heads up. but in a multiway pot, especially on a board that lends itself to a lot of big wrap + pair hands, just check fold and wait for a better spot.

    in general also, unless you have a shallow stack (where you can check raise and get it all in), post flop play out of position is very hard in PLO. obv you were in the BB so its irrelevant here but just as a general rule, position is very key.
  5. JokersOnYou JokersOnYou is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2010 (2/8/2010 6:25pm) in reply to spendincash

    you are basically drawing to 4 outs (assuming they're good), even if your two pair is good you will have to face raises on both the turn and river. Easy fold.
     
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    Feb 8th, 2010 (2/8/2010 6:32pm) in reply to JokersOnYou

     
    Originally Posted by JokersOnYou View Post

    you are basically drawing to 4 outs (assuming they're good),

    youll learn that case cards hit all the time in plo, proceed with caution
  7. jasament jasament is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2010 (2/8/2010 6:38pm) in reply to JokersOnYou

     
    Originally Posted by JokersOnYou View Post

    you are basically drawing to 4 outs (assuming they're good), even if your two pair is good you will have to face raises on both the turn and river. Easy fold.

    i dont think its possible to be drawing to 4 outs. your either drawing to 2 outs (if he has a set thats not TTT), drawing pretty much dead (if he has TTT) or like at best 40% to win the hand against like a QJ9T type hand.
  8. leftygrove leftygrove is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2010 (2/8/2010 6:39pm) in reply to spendincash

    Very standard fold, I fold top and bottom here also. Even top two is tough to play out of position because there are almost no good turn cards for you (a 2 or 3 is good, otherwise it's tough to continue).
  9. jasament jasament is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2010 (2/8/2010 6:45pm) in reply to spendincash

    against an evenly distributed range across top two, any set, and a couple wrap type hands, you have about 20% equity. not a very good spot clearly...

    http://www.propokertools.com/simulat...mp;h4=&h5=

    pretty great tool btw for those that dont know it
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    Feb 8th, 2010 (2/8/2010 7:22pm) in reply to jasament

    Thanks for posting that tool. Very nice.
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