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what to do with JJ - cooler or bad spot?

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  1. xelnet xelnet is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2009 (11/2/2009 12:56am)

    btw, this is my first post. i was on the bubble in a $8 6max mtt on stars. i just wanna know what better thinking players would do here. ty in advance

    also, villain was very active with 3bet 15% over 100hands

    pokerstars Game #34812730342: Tournament #206549172, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (250/500) - 2009/11/02 0:17:12 ET
    Table '206549172 50' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Eddy030985 (22013 in chips)
    Seat 2: wujekcity (27622 in chips)
    Seat 4: Xelnet (28745 in chips)
    Seat 5: Tac5 (6676 in chips)
    Seat 6: annemcc (25786 in chips)
    Eddy030985: posts the ante 60
    wujekcity: posts the ante 60
    Xelnet: posts the ante 60
    Tac5: posts the ante 60
    annemcc: posts the ante 60
    wujekcity: posts small blind 250
    Xelnet: posts big blind 500
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Xelnet [Jh Jc]
    Tac5: raises 6116 to 6616 and is all-in
    annemcc: raises 6116 to 12732
    Eddy030985: folds
    wujekcity: folds
    Xelnet: raises 15953 to 28685 and is all-in
    annemcc: calls 12994 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (2959) returned to Xelnet
    *** FLOP *** [6d 5c Ah]
    *** TURN *** [6d 5c Ah] [3h]
    *** RIVER *** [6d 5c Ah 3h] [4s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Xelnet: shows [Jh Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
    annemcc: shows [Kh Ks] (a pair of Kings)
    annemcc collected 38220 from side pot
    Tac5: shows [8s Qc] (high card Ace)
    annemcc collected 20398 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 58618 Main pot 20398. Side pot 38220. | Rake 0
    Board [6d 5c Ah 3h 4s]
    Seat 1: Eddy030985 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: wujekcity (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: Xelnet (big blind) showed [Jh Jc] and lost with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 5: Tac5 showed [8s Qc] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 6: annemcc showed [Kh Ks] and won (58618) with a pair of Kings
  2. Sp1ctacular3 Sp1ctacular3 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2009 (11/2/2009 1:46am) in reply to xelnet

    Unless Anne is super nit then its just a cooler spot.
  3. allin4flush allin4flush is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2009 (11/2/2009 12:53pm) in reply to xelnet

    Since he's so active, I'd put the villain on a wide range here, something like 88+, AT+, that sort of thing. With your medium-sized stack, it looks like a good double-up spot to me. I don't know if I'd have had the guts to make the call exactly, but I don't think it's out of line at all.
  4. tyson219 tyson219 is offline Moderator

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    Nov 2nd, 2009 (11/2/2009 1:46pm) in reply to xelnet

    Unlucky.

    However, I don't like the min reraise here. Half your stack is in and you're committed at that point. Either flat call and hope you don't get squeezed or shove it. The flat call sets up a squeeze, which is not good for JJ as the range can include hands that are either a flip or have you crushed (as well as worse hands). If you flat call, you need to decide if the reraise is a squeeze or if you're beat...tough to do. So... shoving was your best option here. Unfortunately, you would have been called anyway and lost to a monster. Nothing you can do about that.
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