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what to do in this spot with 99???

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  1. theservant44 theservant44 is offline

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    May 5th, 2008 (5/5/2008 10:03pm)

    pokerstars Game #17231542250: Tournament #87313535, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2008/05/05 - 22:00:26 (ET)
    Table '87313535 14' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: thred_chills (45664 in chips)
    Seat 2: fornicator1 (21203 in chips)
    Seat 4: hallo1111 (15974 in chips)
    Seat 5: choumane (27793 in chips)
    Seat 6: multicult78 (19350 in chips)
    Seat 7: SteveMatador (69990 in chips)
    Seat 8: magome (70026 in chips)
    thred_chills: posts the ante 100
    fornicator1: posts the ante 100
    hallo1111: posts the ante 100
    choumane: posts the ante 100
    multicult78: posts the ante 100
    SteveMatador: posts the ante 100
    magome: posts the ante 100
    hallo1111: posts small blind 500
    choumane: posts big blind 1000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to thred_chills [9s 9d]
    multicult78: folds
    SteveMatador: folds
    magome: calls 1000
    thred_chills: raises 3000 to 4000
    fornicator1: raises 17103 to 21103 and is all-in
    hallo1111: folds
    choumane: folds
    magome: folds
    thred_chills:??????????????????
  2. theservant44 theservant44 is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 12:08am) in reply to theservant44

    anyone???
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  3. brunoWon brunoWon is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 12:22am) in reply to theservant44

    snap call.

    11.3k in the pot already, 17 more to call, seems easy to me.
  4. Wretchy Wretchy is offline whatslogic

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 12:24am) in reply to brunoWon

    1) Learn to raise correctly

    2) His range is at LEAST 77+ AJ+

    3) Fold

    4) Evaluate before you ask dumb questions.
     
  5. xxDAMAGERxx xxDAMAGERxx is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 12:25am) in reply to theservant44

    I don't like your raise to start with, I would just limp after the 1st guy. But the way you played it I would call. I wouldn't really want to but I probably would.
     
  6. brunoWon brunoWon is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 12:25am) in reply to Wretchy

    learn to raise correctly, lol?

    are you talking about his raising amount, or him raising the limper in general? Because his raise amount is fine.
  7. RicardoDB RicardoDB is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 12:29am) in reply to theservant44

    Just call its a $4 buy in tourney.
  8. Full Tilt Blows Full Tilt Blows is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 12:33am) in reply to theservant44

    come on man. its simple you only raise with jacks or better from early position. you should of limped in with 99's especially from early position. if its a small raise then fine you can call, but anything thats over the top you know your probably dominated and if your lucky it might be a coin flip. either way you don't want to get yourself in that situation so you limp. only time you raise with 99 is if your the dealer or on the cut off and no ones raised in front of you and theres not to many people in the pot. from early position you can raise with AQ, AK, KK, AA obviously and hope someone is dumb enough to call you all in, QQ, and JJ at the least. play it smart man and gl. ps dont fucking raise with KQ early position either, i see alot of people do that. you limp with KQ, unless its suited it adds vale, and even then minimal raise.
  9. brunoWon brunoWon is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 12:39am) in reply to Full Tilt Blows

     
    Originally Posted by Full Tilt Blows View Post


    come on man. its simple you only raise with jacks or better from early position. you should of limped in with 99's especially from early position. if its a small raise then fine you can call, but anything thats over the top you know your probably dominated and if your lucky it might be a coin flip. either way you don't want to get yourself in that situation so you limp. only time you raise with 99 is if your the dealer or on the cut off and no ones raised in front of you and theres not to many people in the pot. from early position you can raise with AQ, AK, KK, AA obviously and hope someone is dumb enough to call you all in, QQ, and JJ at the least. play it smart man and gl. ps dont fucking raise with KQ early position either, i see alot of people do that. you limp with KQ, unless its suited it adds vale, and even then minimal raise.

    do not listen to a word of advice this guy just stated.
  10. Full Tilt Blows Full Tilt Blows is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 12:43am) in reply to brunoWon

    yea dont listen to me, but listen to bruno whos record is quite impressive. you won a couple of evens that didn't even equal 100 dollars.........right. poker pro in the making.
  11. Claw1980 Claw1980 is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 12:57am) in reply to theservant44

    call
     
  12. SpauldingSmails SpauldingSmails is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 1:16am) in reply to Claw1980

    LOL @ responses.... Fulltiltblows is hilarious....

    truly marginal situation, i don't mind the raise, trouble with it is that given the dead money in the pot, it becomes a prime squeeze opportunity. Their range is suddenly wider and you are left having to make the decision.

    I think if you were prepared to raise in your mind, you should have decided what you wanted to do when you get pushed on, else you should have folded, limping IMO is awfully spewy there.
  13. Shrubbery Shrubbery is offline

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    May 6th, 2008 (5/6/2008 1:34am) in reply to Full Tilt Blows

     
    Originally Posted by Full Tilt Blows View Post

    come on man. its simple you only raise with jacks or better from early position. you should of limped in with 99's especially from early position. if its a small raise then fine you can call, but anything thats over the top you know your probably dominated and if your lucky it might be a coin flip. either way you don't want to get yourself in that situation so you limp. only time you raise with 99 is if your the dealer or on the cut off and no ones raised in front of you and theres not to many people in the pot. from early position you can raise with AQ, AK, KK, AA obviously and hope someone is dumb enough to call you all in, QQ, and JJ at the least. play it smart man and gl. ps dont fucking raise with KQ early position either, i see alot of people do that. you limp with KQ, unless its suited it adds vale, and even then minimal raise.

    I really hope this is a level.

    We need more info on the player. If no info then this is a tough hand. Wretchy I also hope ur kidding because his raise is fine... theres a limper so he bumped it up 4x which is perfactly fine. It is going to cost u 17.1k more to call into a 28k pot which is about 1.5 to 1 odds. I just need more info on the guy before I make my decision. I like to base me decision on how the player has played and i would think his range would be what wretchy said and in that case its probably a fold and move on to the next hand. But again I dont always fold there depending on the player.

    EDIT: Thinking more about this I might call... its a very tough decision and I hope to get more responses because im perplexed. With me its based on the player and my gut feeling.
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