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  1. apestyles apestyles is offline Moderator

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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 6:37pm)

    pokerstars Game #12286749791: Tournament #70002017, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/09/26 - 18:28:19 (ET)
    Table '70002017 25' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: mrbogins (3954 in chips)
    Seat 2: foucault82 (3575 in chips)
    Seat 3: Tr34cle (1465 in chips)
    Seat 4: apestyles (2209 in chips)
    Seat 5: donflun (3915 in chips)
    Seat 6: floes (2882 in chips)
    floes: posts small blind 15
    mrbogins: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to apestyles [xx]
    foucault82: folds
    Tr34cle: folds
    apestyles: raises 90 to 120
    donflun: folds
    floes: folds
    mrbogins: calls 90
    *** FLOP *** [Tc 9s 5s]
    mrbogins: checks
    apestyles: bets 165
    mrbogins: calls 165
    *** TURN *** [Tc 9s 5s] [Ks]
    mrbogins: bets 3669 and is all-in
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  2. BillMueller BillMueller is offline OT President

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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 6:41pm) in reply to apestyles

    frush?
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 6:43pm) in reply to apestyles

    Any hand that can beat T9hh.
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 6:53pm) in reply to macleod51

    would this guy ship qj right here cause he's scard of the flush and stupid?
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 6:57pm) in reply to ChuckSty

    I think he's shipping something that he is trapping with on the flop, not the turn.
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 7:05pm) in reply to macleod51

    ya i kind of agree with you macleod like he flop top two or set and then worst card in deck hits and he ships it. i was just pondering, but i think it's also possible he has alot of other stuff too.
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 7:10pm) in reply to ChuckSty

    i think its possible he could have floated u on the flop with a hand like KxQs KxJs. and he hits top pair with flush/straight draws and ships it. i think you would have to have at least a set to call here. also he could have total air like AsJx but thats unlikly
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 7:19pm) in reply to unfknbelievable

    ya i thought something like kq or kj with a spade was also very possible.
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 7:28pm) in reply to apestyles

    KT or better
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 7:30pm) in reply to Mkind16

    set or AK, i think he has AJ with the ace flush draw
     
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 7:53pm) in reply to OGPokerman

    I am never calling w/ 1 pair here. It's prob even a bad call if Ape is holding As-Kx.
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 8:00pm) in reply to apestyles

    id give him credit for QJ without any reads...i can see him shoving QJ here especially if he had no spade. But I prob call with a set here cause Im a donkey and am probably wrong. With no info theres a lot this could mean. But id expect to see QJ here more then anything.
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 8:16pm) in reply to apestyles

    would like at least a set of 5s, might call w/ KT here and hate my life just because the bet seems sorta silly, knowing nothing about the player. KT is the absolute worst hand i'd call with...
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 8:21pm) in reply to ThereIsNo

    there is a reason he is pushing the 3 spade board, its because he doenst want another spade to hit, or else he is pushing a draw and wants a spade to hit, because of the overbet i just cant see someone semi bluffing here with a flush draw so i am going to go with, he doesnt want another spade to hit, therefore he has 2 pair...set... or a straight IMO. (also possible baby flush)

    therefore you need a set, flush, or top 2 to call this.
     
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 8:31pm) in reply to SN8WMAN

    Depends on if he reads pocketfives, specifically Ape overbet related posts :)
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 8:34pm) in reply to SN8WMAN

    agree w/ sn8wman well put.
     
  17. apestyles apestyles is offline Moderator

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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 10:44pm) in reply to SN8WMAN

    I like sn8wmans post here too. I actually think I wouldve called with T9+ but I instafolded AT w/ no spade. Was just curious to here what other people would do.
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 10:47pm) in reply to apestyles

    oh....
     
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    Sep 26th, 2007 (9/26/2007 10:51pm) in reply to OGPokerman

    I think it was worth a spite call, simply for thread closure purposes.
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    Oct 2nd, 2007 (10/2/2007 4:11pm) in reply to apestyles

    I believe I had K 9.
     
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    Oct 2nd, 2007 (10/2/2007 4:32pm) in reply to rwestover

    post your HH rwestover
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    Oct 2nd, 2007 (10/2/2007 5:05pm) in reply to cmval

    Meh.. Set or better..
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