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what do you do w AA here?

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  1. spikedag spikedag is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 12:00pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #4565279021: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (34612832), Table 5 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:56:09 ET - 2007/12/20

    Seat 1: nhl76 (1,450)

    Seat 2: spikedag (2,410)

    Seat 3: triplej (1,200)

    Seat 4: noah1204 (1,430)

    Seat 5: Scott2011 (1,355)

    Seat 7: KIMBERLY87 (605)

    Seat 8: Gods Ghosts Me (1,450)

    Seat 9: harinarine (3,600)

    noah1204 posts the small blind of 20

    Scott2011 posts the big blind of 40

    The button is in seat #3

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to spikedag [Ac Ah]

    KIMBERLY87 folds

    Gods Ghosts Me folds

    harinarine folds

    nhl76 folds

    Scott2011: cool

    KIMBERLY87: were abouts in scotland

    spikedag raises to 120

    triplej calls 120

    noah1204 calls 100

    Scott2011 calls 80

    *** FLOP *** [Th Jh 9c]

    noah1204 has 15 seconds left to act

    noah1204 bets 240

    Scott2011 folds

    spikedag ?
     
  2. TheMayor TheMayor is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 12:02pm) in reply to spikedag

    Sure. You could just go ahead and fold QhKh here too if you feel like it.
  3. JKamikazeKid JKamikazeKid is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 12:11pm) in reply to spikedag

    well since you're drawing to 2 outs (and they have to come runner runner - Qh, Kh), I'd say you're an extreme underdog in this situation. Instafold.

    On a more serious note, raise more PF and shove flop (and hope you didn't get screwed by J-10, 2 hearts, or Q-K) - Hope he has A-10 and hope he doesn't have any hearts...
  4. anticure anticure is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 12:29pm) in reply to JKamikazeKid

    fold u only have 120 in, too early to go broke with one pair on a WAY draw heavy board
     
  5. Matedog_88 Matedog_88 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 12:46pm) in reply to anticure

    fold
  6. AceOfHobbes AceOfHobbes is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 12:48pm) in reply to Matedog_88

    FOLD
  7. krs33 krs33 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 12:48pm) in reply to spikedag

    Fold, early in tourney and you have a relatively large stack. No need to blow it here.
  8. beck_AA beck_AA is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 12:57pm) in reply to krs33

    lol, you dont have to muck here.....Its a bad flop, but your hand is too hidden. Meaning your opponent is protecting his hand, he cant put you on AA.
    Looking @ stack sizes I think I smooth the flop for pot control, and if a bad card turns such as a 3rd hrt, 8 or Q come off you can shutdown. I like smoothing the flop and if a brick (3 or 4 of spades etc.) comes off, I like to val. raise if he leads again, and if he checks im prob. gonna bet pot, and call anything after I lead for the pot on the turn. Im not encouraging you to play a big pot w/ AA on a 9TJ flop, its not safe, but I think open-folding to 1 bet is too weak-tight. Considering it was only a 3way pot. If the guy had led 240 into 5-6 people I can easily justify a fold. gl, and gg w/ those aces prob.
     
  9. Crazyhorse76 Crazyhorse76 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 1:06pm) in reply to beck_AA

    and your preflop raise was obviously fine. You don't have to raise more as previously stated. Ugly flop though for sure.
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  10. ChuckSty ChuckSty is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 1:16pm) in reply to Crazyhorse76

    i def. flat call the flop. genearlly
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  11. atthefactory atthefactory is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 3:13pm) in reply to spikedag

    RAISE
  12. darkcheck_ darkcheck_ is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 3:33pm) in reply to spikedag

    call and re-eval turn, also folding KQh on this flop is terrible
     
  13. darkhorse007 darkhorse007 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 3:37pm) in reply to spikedag

    Absolutely agree with beckAA. Smooth call and keep the pot small and see what comes on the turn. He prob has a nice draw thus he bet out. If he stoned the flop for a str8 and ur beat alreay I am sure he would check raise in this situation.
  14. ChuckSty ChuckSty is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 4:11pm) in reply to darkhorse007

    he could also easily be protecting two pair. or have air and know that is a disgusting flop for most hands that didn't flop the nuts.
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  15. dcookie dcookie is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 4:13pm) in reply to spikedag

    reraise 10000000000000000000000000%
     
  16. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 4:28pm) in reply to spikedag

    ^^what beckAA said.
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  17. dantheman420911 dantheman420911 is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 4:36pm) in reply to krs33

    he bet half the pot that is very scared bet and if he flopped the nuts he would prlly slow play or "check to the raiser"he could have AJ Maybe a Q or just a feeler bet with a small pair u play the opponent not the cards does he fire at pots alot does he play like a rock is he tricky does he only play nuts. poker is a game of infite information u cant just go on his bet size to make the desicion
  18. darkcheck_ darkcheck_ is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 4:49pm) in reply to beck_AA

    its a 4way pot , beck
     
  19. Denty Denty is offline

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    Dec 20th, 2007 (12/20/2007 5:26pm) in reply to spikedag

    anyone who open mucks here is a moron....a moron. 4 way raised pot, all late position/blind calls, the bettor isnt putting you on aces. i call here and play this out. probably how i would play AJ. its spew to get a lot of chips in here with one pair and both the turn/river to come and spike any crazy number of outs. if you raise and get played back at by something like QJ,QT,JT,T9,KQ,78,J9, youre either going to be behind, or theyre going to have appropriate odds to get their draw in there. against any legitimate draw (pair + straight, pair + flush), youre going to be even money at best and theyre going to be 60%+ favorite at worst.
     
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