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  1. FlopeDeNuts FlopeDeNuts is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 11:07am)

    pokerstars Game #36459067906: Tournament #237010393, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/12/09 12:00:00 ET
    Table '237010393 44' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: pjm6321 (3000 in chips)
    Seat 2: PokerErkki (3000 in chips)
    Seat 3: wizza (3000 in chips)
    Seat 4: FlopeDeNuts (3000 in chips)
    Seat 5: Jonlun (3000 in chips)
    Seat 6: mezre (3000 in chips)
    Seat 7: MaGiciaN_021 (3000 in chips)
    Seat 8: yo38ann (3000 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 9: obiwaannn (3000 in chips)
    PokerErkki: posts small blind 10
    wizza: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to FlopeDeNuts [Qc Qs]
    FlopeDeNuts: raises 40 to 60
    Jonlun: folds
    mezre: folds
    MaGiciaN_021: folds
    yo38ann: folds
    yo38ann has returned
    obiwaannn has timed out
    obiwaannn: folds
    obiwaannn is sitting out
    pjm6321: folds
    PokerErkki: calls 50
    wizza: folds
    *** FLOP *** [5d Tc Js]
    PokerErkki: checks
    FlopeDeNuts: bets 100
    PokerErkki: raises 180 to 280
    FlopeDeNuts: calls 180
    *** TURN *** [5d Tc Js] [3c]
    obiwaannn has returned
    PokerErkki: bets 475
    FlopeDeNuts: calls 475
    *** RIVER *** [5d Tc Js 3c] [6c]
    PokerErkki: bets 985
    FlopeDeNuts: ???

    I know its only a 22 dollar bird but im sure hes not getting outta line with nothing very first hand. Maybe J10 or 55.

    What do you think?
     
  2. Charlamaigne Charlamaigne is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 11:11am) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

    Pretty strong line on his part. Could def see him showing up with 55 or j10 with his flop raise on a pretty weak board. Is he a winning player?
  3. FlopeDeNuts FlopeDeNuts is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 11:14am) in reply to Charlamaigne

    nahh hes not. But yea looked pretty strong ehh i folded tho, still early levels.
     
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  4. harvMC10 harvMC10 is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 11:57am) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

    these are tough spots for me too... if were planning on folding to whats basically a blank on the river (granted he didnt backdoor you) should we be folding that turn? Why call the turn if your plan is to fold to a river bet i guess idk? i suck and have trouble in these spots too
  5. coolhandkev coolhandkev is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 11:59am) in reply to harvMC10

    He has AJ or KQ, I call.
  6. FlopeDeNuts FlopeDeNuts is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:06pm) in reply to harvMC10

     
    Originally Posted by harvMC10 View Post

    if were planning on folding to whats basically a blank on the river (granted he didnt backdoor you) should we be folding that turn? Why call the turn if your plan is to fold to a river bet i guess idk?

    yea i agree i guess i just didnt wanna let it go to such a bad player but im sure he had me crushed dont see why he'd take that line with nothing.
     
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  7. funnygut funnygut is offline gone hollywood

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:09pm) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

    go broke on flop
     
  8. FlopeDeNuts FlopeDeNuts is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:10pm) in reply to funnygut

     
    Originally Posted by funnygut View Post

    go broke on flop

    That makes sense.
     
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  9. MarleyGroup MarleyGroup is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:12pm) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

    CALLLL
     
  10. KingBustYou KingBustYou is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:18pm) in reply to harvMC10

    Could QJ+ also be in his range here? Or would he check-call you down?

    Maybe you need to find out how strong he is by 4betting the flop/fold.

    When you called the turn, was it to see if he would bet strongly on the river. Which bet would you have called on the river?
  11. FlopeDeNuts FlopeDeNuts is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:18pm) in reply to MarleyGroup

     
    Originally Posted by MarleyGroup View Post

    CALLLL

    mehh lay down of the century imo
     
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  12. funnygut funnygut is offline gone hollywood

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:20pm) in reply to KingBustYou

     
    Originally Posted by KingBustYou View Post

    Could QJ+ also be in his range here? Or would he check-call you down?

    Maybe you need to find out how strong he is by 4betting the flop/fold.

    When you called the turn, was it to see if he would bet strongly on the river. Which bet would you have called on the river?

    no
     
  13. FlopeDeNuts FlopeDeNuts is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:21pm) in reply to KingBustYou

    Yea i called turn to see what he would do on river but if he had something like QJ he most likely checks river i think.
     
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  14. KingBustYou KingBustYou is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:33pm) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

    so, was ur play the right one, just calling and folding to a strong riverbet? Or is there another better line?

    Is it better to call his 3bet on the flop and call his turnbet instead of losing chips with a 4bet on the flop if you have to fold to a 5bet?

    It already makes sense to me :)

    So some say go broke on the flop, you folded the river, any other options?
  15. FlopeDeNuts FlopeDeNuts is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:38pm) in reply to KingBustYou

    eh i think i played i fine.
     
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  16. MarleyGroup MarleyGroup is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:46pm) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

    So you folded river then?
     
  17. funnygut funnygut is offline gone hollywood

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:47pm) in reply to KingBustYou

     
    Originally Posted by KingBustYou View Post

    so, was ur play the right one, just calling and folding to a strong riverbet? Or is there another better line?

    Is it better to call his 3bet on the flop and call his turnbet instead of losing chips with a 4bet on the flop if you have to fold to a 5bet?

    It already makes sense to me :)

    So some say go broke on the flop, you folded the river, any other options?

    flop was bet/raise, there is no 3 bet at this point

    and i don't think this is anywhere near the best way to play the hand, i don't like basing decisions on what randoms will or will not do on future streets, anyone can spazz, make the decision on the flop, either fold, call intending to call 2 more streets almost 100% including on a board like this or 3 bet/get it in, i could imagine doing any of the 3 but 22 fo random im 3 bet/getting it in
     
  18. FlopeDeNuts FlopeDeNuts is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 12:55pm) in reply to MarleyGroup

     
    Originally Posted by MarleyGroup View Post

    So you folded river then?

    Sho did idfk ima loser/moron/dz/woozed/on adderall.
     
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  19. iceybsimpson iceybsimpson is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 1:28pm) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

    should of called, riv doesnt change nething, plus alot of small stakes feesh play top pair this way with marginal kickers too.
     
  20. FlopeDeNuts FlopeDeNuts is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 1:37pm) in reply to iceybsimpson

    Idk i figured he would check river with just 1 pair..or no?
     
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  21. fordmotor08 fordmotor08 is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 2:00pm) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

    Why hasn't a flush poss. been mentioned?
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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 2:07pm) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

     
    Originally Posted by FlopeDeNuts View Post

    eh i think i played i fine.

    then why are you asking others what they think?
     
  23. FlopeDeNuts FlopeDeNuts is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 2:16pm) in reply to IBGrindin

     
    Originally Posted by IBGrindin View Post

    then why are you asking others what they think?

    to get other opinions obviously...why would i put up a hand i think i played bad?
     
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  24. peacebrother peacebrother is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 2:33pm) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

    why such a small raise, So you could fold if you were beat. I think I would have repopped on the flop ans see whats up.
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    Dec 9th, 2009 (12/9/2009 2:36pm) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

    I will call
  26. IBGrindin IBGrindin is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2009 (12/10/2009 10:44am) in reply to FlopeDeNuts

     
    Originally Posted by FlopeDeNuts View Post

     
    Originally Posted by IBGrindin View Post

    then why are you asking others what they think?

    to get other opinions obviously...why would i put up a hand i think i played bad?

    I dont know, maybe to try and improve your game?
     
  27. kenn121 kenn121 is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2009 (12/10/2009 10:50am) in reply to IBGrindin

    against a reg i fold turn against a random this is a call
    820 1
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