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Usually I tip the dealers a couple percent, but almost all of these have been with wins under 10k so I haven't though much of it. Does this number typically decrease or increase if the prize is bigger? I am currently deep in a tournament where top 4 get six figures, and would like to be prepared as possible. I don't want to overdo anything but at the same time not seem like a cheap-ass... thanks
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I have seriously no idea since I don't play live much. But giving them more then 1% seems redic. to me
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Dealers get paid minimum wage and are dependent on tips to make ends meet. Don't tip more than 5% max, around 3% is ok. If you win really big, e.g., a bad beat jackpot of say, 50k, $1000 or 2% is fine.
Edited By: finewhine Aug 15th, 2010 at 01:34 PM
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Do you tip the guy serving you your big mac at mcdonalds, they must be on min wage aswell.
Originally Posted by finewhine
Dealers get paid minimum wage and are dependent on tips to make ends meet. Don't tip more than 5% max, around 3% is ok. If you win really big, e.g., a bad beat jackpot of say, 50k, $1000 or 2% is fine.
It should be the players decision if they tip or not and if so as to how much they actually tip. -
Are you implying the skill level is the same, that the age is the same? Do you never tip a waiter or waitress? You're being ridiculous
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If they take out something reasonable for the dealers already from the prize pool, 0-2% is OK depending on the service and how happy you were with the dealers..
If they do not take out any money for staff out of the prize pool 2-4% is OK..
Of course do what you are comfortable with, but with those guidelines you shouldn't feel like a cheap ass in my opinion and won't be over doing it either..
If this was in Europe though, most countries no tipping is standard.. Different culture though.. US employees in certain industries feel entitled to money from others.. Those getting paid (sometimes the same type of pay wage) in certain European countries would never expect a tip doing the same thing..
Oh, and GL, TID, this is a good problem to have ;) -
As a standard, I try to tip the buyin when I takedown a live win.
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i agree some sort of tip should be given just to be considerate. but as for the waiter and waitress thing, they are actually very dependent on tips because they dont even make half of minimum wage for the hourly pay.
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wackyJaxon had it right. Make sure you see what they take out for the dealers before tipping. Some casinos will take out 3% for their dealers as "gratuity", I guess, because otherwise winners won't tip. But then it fucks the generous people who do tip, because they tip on top of it without realizing that.
Also I've heard about casinos doing things like taking 3% out for the dealers, or taking "dealer appreciation add-ons", then splitting it between the casino, staff, and dealers. This is seriously fucked up and I don't really know how I'd approach it. I'd probably get pissed off with the tournament director and show my displeasure with that structure... it's just hidden rake and it's coming out of the dealers and customers' pockets.
P.S. Matt Savage ( I think), a tournament director who posts on 2p2, mentioned that dealers usually hate dealing tournaments because it's much less profitable than dealing cash games. Something I'd keep in mind if I were to tip them. To be honest, the idea of tipping a dealer is pretty bogus to me because the casino should really just be paying them more. The original idea of tipping was to get better service in the future. Is a dealer going to misdeal every time I'm at a table if I don't tip? They should get the same hourly but I shouldn't be expected to give it to them on top of their other wages. -
if they already take out of the prizepool for the dealers then iw ould tip $0

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I only had one decent score live. I ended up not giving a tip although I intended to. It was 3am when we decided to chop it six was. We had almost the entire prizepool on a black jack table chopping it up they, wouldn't help us. All the random drunks walking by made me uneasy. After chopping it it took forever to cash out and by that time it was 5 am and I was ready to get out of there, and a little concerned about getting robbed when I left. I didn't realize until the next day that I didn't tip and felt a little dirty about it. They took some money out for dealers, floor, ect.. but it's hard to say how much really ends up going to the dealers.
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There was a thread not long ago about tipping dealers.
Edited By: rayfox111 Aug 15th, 2010 at 05:59 PM
Their employed by the casino to deal.
Your already paying the casino for the priviledge of playing.
Therefore its the casino thats short changing the dealers and pocketing the cash.
All their doing is passing the buck on to you!
If your happy to tip, fair enough. -
Ahh another dealer tipping thread.
The controversy continues -
+1
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I wouldn't give a % of the win. For exemple, It's not faire to give 4% of a Million dollar to some guy who just deals card. $40.000 is money that your family could use to improve their life.
I would just give a fixed amount, like 1000. It's enough for them to feel grateful. -
god i hope this is a joke, its one of the rudest things to not tip dealers, they make hardly any money and all of them hate dealing tourneys bc of douces that wont tip, while in cash they get some every hand.
Originally Posted by MakeMeMaster
ehh dont tip, dealers get paid money for dealing, they dont need ur money
and coming from an ex mcdonalds employee :) u should tip them too lol -
Edited By: wackyJaxon Aug 15th, 2010 at 11:02 PMjshark, MMM can fight his own battles, but keep in mind he is from Finland where there is no tipping custom.. I bet the games are dealt better there too than in the US (WSOP dealers were terrible, even Binnions dealers were better).. That being said, if in the US, should follow US customs..Originally Posted by jshark4
god i hope this is a joke, its one of the rudest things to not tip dealers, they make hardly any money and all of them hate dealing tourneys bc of douces that wont tip, while in cash they get some every hand.
and coming from an ex mcdonalds employee :) u should tip them too lol
Edit: Not all the dealers were terrible, I feel bad for the ones that were good. Just found in the non-holdem games in the tournaments they were terrible, and for the $8 drop every 30 min in the PLO/PLO8 games, they dealt so slow and the players had a better handle on the pot bets and split pots than the dealers to move the games along..
Reason: Not all the dealers were bad.. -
this reminded me ... my only decent live score was at the venetian.... i go to get paid ....
and sitting beside the tournament director on a podium/desk area is 2 racks ... he slides me over the rack with the most money in it .... about 48k
he says, " heres your winnings" and then he points to the other rack of chips and says something along the lines of " and this is for the dealers"
im thinking ... " wait hold up wtf is this?" .... hes really doing this? it really pissed me off TBH.... i look closely at the rack of chips for the dealers... and it has almost 2k in it.... this guy was trying to get me to tip 5% on top of taxes ... on top of 3% they take out.... on top of the 10$ dealer add on ... .i couldnt believe he would go about the tip this way...
im actually a dealer ( not a poker dealer, but i deal dice and the pit games ) so was going to tip about 1200 .... i asked the tournament director if he got a cut of the tips and he said that he did... so at this point im almost feeling like just stiffing them completely... but the dealers were great to me... especially the FT dealers.... very professional and took good care of me ... so i ended up tipping like 800.... but that tourney director left a sour taste in my mouth after that stunt. -
I dont think tipping should be customary. I've worked a bunch of minimum wage jobs in my day and have worked 10 times harder than most of the dealers I've seen and I never received or even had a glimmer of thought about receiving a tip. If the dealer works hard and does something out of the ordinary then yes you should tip them. If they just deal cards and arent anything special then I dont think you should have to tip. At the end of the day all they are doing is dealing cards and sitting down. IMO, there are way more jobs that deserve tips than the ones we give tips to.
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The problem with tipping, is that there is very little logic to it, its more about tradition.
Here in the UK, we tip taxi drivers, fastfood delivery people, bell boys in top hotels, and thats pretty much it.
We dont tip, doctors, dentists, train drivers, air pilots & stewards, shop assistants, fast food shop assistants, retail shop assistants, super market staff, etc etc. Wheres the logic?
Maybe years ago, dealers werent paid a wage, maybe they were casuals that hung around saloons/pubs and relied totally on tips for any income they received? -
I hate these threads. It always turns into a dealer bashing thread or a " you're cheap " thread.
I am a dealer, and I agree with most people on here, if there is already juice taken out ( which there will be )...then 1-2% is perfectly fine. If you don't want to tip, then you don't have to tip either. No one is obligated to tip. If you are just having fun and on vacation, most people where I work tip 1-3% of the small buy in tourneys we have ( $65 and $80 buyins ).
In the end, it basically is simple, if you want to tip, then 1-3% is perfectly fine, and if you don't want to tip, that is fine also, you are not obligated to leave anything.
Most of the people on here play for a living, and play many many many live tourneys, so I can completely understand there thoughts of "if juice is taken out already, no need to tip"...and I can def see where they are coming from.
Hope this helps -
You're an idiot. Waiters/resses, get paid LESS THAN minimum wage. Tips are entirely there income, minimum wage does not mean getting tipped.
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I don't tip when I play live tournaments because I'm backed, if that makes sense. Of course, if I binked a really big one, I'd probably throw a few bones.
Edited By: SICKTIGHT311 Aug 16th, 2010 at 04:11 AM -
what is with this american tipping bullshi*. Just come to Australia, we have a far more regulated labour market unlike America, nobody is allowed to earn peanuts in any job as their is a price floor for wages which is decent enough to live on.
Secondly, it is illegal to tip in casinos anywhere in Australia and so it should be.
I was playing in Paris recently, and after paying time charges and rake, i had no reason why i should tip yet they still expected it the idiots.
Fix your labour marker America. Pay people properly and we won't have this issue. -
You're a bigger idiot. They may not get min wage, but they do get an hourly wage. Do some research before posting, moron. Besides, you seem to be saying the same thing I'm saying, so gf'd.
Edited By: finewhine Aug 17th, 2010 at 03:30 PM -
when i hear tip this is what i think of
Originally Posted by Parky 32
I can only think of one thing when I hear the word tip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgxQhvEDBfk&feature=fvw (NSFW)
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