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What is villain's shoving range here?

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  1. bAllinOnAbudget bAllinOnAbudget is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 12:06am)

    Pretty hard to get away from AK with 17bbs but... what does big stack open shove with here? he hasn't spazzed out since i've been at table for 80+ hands. is this a 4sure call every time also?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #26811686535: Daily Dollar Rebuy (207944566), Table 58 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:34:42 ET - 2010/12/29
    Seat 1: linkirk (8,270)
    Seat 2: Jdawg765 (44,170)
    Seat 3: phily b1 (6,147)
    Seat 4: franpoker100 (18,547)
    Seat 5: Tw1z7id (48,367)
    Seat 6: ToTTi_16 (12,748)
    Seat 7: CABRALJ (13,557)
    Seat 8: Bmoney90tm (17,619)
    Seat 9: buttonchaser (7,173)
    linkirk antes 125
    Jdawg765 antes 125
    phily b1 antes 125
    franpoker100 antes 125
    Tw1z7id antes 125
    ToTTi_16 antes 125
    CABRALJ antes 125
    Bmoney90tm antes 125
    buttonchaser antes 125
    buttonchaser posts the small blind of 500
    linkirk posts the big blind of 1,000
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Bmoney90tm [Ks Ac]
    Jdawg765 folds
    phily b1 folds
    franpoker100 folds
    Tw1z7id raises to 48,242, and is all in
    ToTTi_16 has 15 seconds left to act
    Edited By: bAllinOnAbudget Dec 30th, 2010 at 12:10 AM
    Reason: 17bb effective shove
  2. 88XIN88 88XIN88 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 12:08am) in reply to bAllinOnAbudget

    77 88 99 TT JJ
    AK AQ AJss ATss KQss QJss
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  3. Jason2890 Jason2890 is offline plays plo for overlays

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 12:09am) in reply to bAllinOnAbudget

    His shoving range most likely consists of AK/AQ and pairs you're flipping against. Doubtful that he shows up with KK or AA there, but I suppose it's possible. With the dead money from the blinds and antes I say call and win the race against his JJ.
  4. mattdb9er mattdb9er is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 12:13am) in reply to Jason2890

    since its only 17bbs effective , ill give a safe range of 88+ AJ+ KQ, could be alot wider A10 77 etc, not sure in this buyin mtt how much wider they shove for 17bbs and this exact player, and yes im always snap callin here with AK even against the tight range i gave ur way ahead of it
    Edited By: mattdb9er Dec 30th, 2010 at 12:24 AM
     
  5. FenwayKing FenwayKing is offline The Well: FenwayKing

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 12:15am) in reply to mattdb9er

    who the fuck cares? you have AK

    time to click the call button
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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 12:18am) in reply to FenwayKing

    22-88 A2s-AJs, A8-AJo, KQ, KJ, QJ maybe some suited connectors. Note, never AK, never QQ+. If you fold AK here, boy I just don't know.
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  7. bAllinOnAbudget bAllinOnAbudget is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 12:24am) in reply to fly44

    Thanks for the replies, i guess i give villain too much credit for a big hand in these spots.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #26811686535: Daily Dollar Rebuy (207944566), Table 58 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:34:42 ET - 2010/12/29
    Seat 1: linkirk (8,270)
    Seat 2: Jdawg765 (44,170)
    Seat 3: phily b1 (6,147)
    Seat 4: franpoker100 (18,547)
    Seat 5: Tw1z7id (48,367)
    Seat 6: ToTTi_16 (12,748)
    Seat 7: CABRALJ (13,557)
    Seat 8: Bmoney90tm (17,619)
    Seat 9: buttonchaser (7,173)
    linkirk antes 125
    Jdawg765 antes 125
    phily b1 antes 125
    franpoker100 antes 125
    Tw1z7id antes 125
    ToTTi_16 antes 125
    CABRALJ antes 125
    Bmoney90tm antes 125
    buttonchaser antes 125
    buttonchaser posts the small blind of 500
    linkirk posts the big blind of 1,000
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Bmoney90tm [Ks Ac]
    Jdawg765 folds
    phily b1 folds
    franpoker100 folds
    Tw1z7id raises to 48,242, and is all in
    ToTTi_16 has 15 seconds left to act
    ToTTi_16 folds
    CABRALJ folds
    Bmoney90tm calls 17,494, and is all in
    buttonchaser folds
    linkirk folds
    Tw1z7id shows [Qc Qd]
    Bmoney90tm shows [Ks Ac]
    Uncalled bet of 30,748 returned to Tw1z7id
    *** FLOP *** [9c 7d 6c]
    *** TURN *** [9c 7d 6c] [Kh]
    *** RIVER *** [9c 7d 6c Kh] [Tc]
    Tw1z7id shows a pair of Queens
    Bmoney90tm shows a pair of Kings
    Bmoney90tm wins the pot (37,613) with a pair of Kings
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 37,613 | Rake 0
    Board: [9c 7d 6c Kh Tc]
    Seat 1: linkirk (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: Jdawg765 folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: phily b1 folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: franpoker100 folded before the Flop
    Seat 5: Tw1z7id showed [Qc Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
    Seat 6: ToTTi_16 folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: CABRALJ folded before the Flop
    Seat 8: Bmoney90tm (button) showed [Ks Ac] and won (37,613) with a pair of Kings
    Seat 9: buttonchaser (small blind) folded before the Flop
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  8. mattdb9er mattdb9er is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 12:27am) in reply to bAllinOnAbudget

    nh brandon, weird that QQ is even in there, ud think hed want to induce with all shortys behind especially in this mtt, but ya this is just the top of his range in this spot
     
  9. l3iRdMaN l3iRdMaN is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 2:51am) in reply to mattdb9er

    16.4% 22+ A8s+ A5s ATo+ K9s+ KJo+ Q9s+ J9s+ T9s


    if he's competent


    but it's a 1r so the likelihood he's competent is pretty slim. either way obv not folding ak here
    Edited By: l3iRdMaN Dec 30th, 2010 at 02:51 AM
     
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