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What what his range ?

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  1. Francix Francix is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2007 (6/11/2007 11:44pm)

    Ok, i founded that limp very suspicious since the beginning. I thought the flop was decent since i was pretty sure he didnt had A-x. When he reshiped me, i obv knew i was in trouble but i made the call anyway hoping he was on some kind of draw and not A-A

    What i would like to discuss is, could he had something else than A-A on that spot?
    Was i supposed to fold his 800 bet?

    pokerstars Game #10392177082: Tournament #52343078, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit -
    Level IX (200/400) - 2007/06/11 - 23:18:49 (ET)
    Table '52343078 70' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: PolishGreat (10844 in chips)
    Seat 2: kwob20 (4260 in chips)
    Seat 3: analtmezer (2453 in chips)
    Seat 4: DeuceBuster (4524 in chips)
    Seat 5: puppy1369 (6527 in chips)
    Seat 6: Andy McLEOD (22140 in chips)
    Seat 7: lordhuttyx (12325 in chips)
    Seat 8: Francix (5375 in chips)
    Seat 9: Bella-GG (5606 in chips)
    PolishGreat: posts the ante 20
    kwob20: posts the ante 20
    analtmezer: posts the ante 20
    DeuceBuster: posts the ante 20
    puppy1369: posts the ante 20
    Andy McLEOD: posts the ante 20
    lordhuttyx: posts the ante 20
    Francix: posts the ante 20
    Bella-GG: posts the ante 20
    Francix: posts small blind 200
    Bella-GG: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Francix [Td Kd]
    PolishGreat: folds
    kwob20: folds
    analtmezer: folds
    DeuceBuster: folds
    puppy1369: folds
    Andy McLEOD: calls 400
    lordhuttyx: folds
    Francix: calls 200
    Bella-GG: checks
    *** FLOP *** [9s Ts Ah]
    Francix: checks
    Bella-GG: checks
    Andy McLEOD: bets 800
    Francix: raises 2000 to 2800
    Bella-GG: folds
    Andy McLEOD: raises 2400 to 5200
    SharkTank43 [observer] said, "el oh el"
    Francix: calls 2155 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [9s Ts Ah] [4s]
    *** RIVER *** [9s Ts Ah 4s] [5c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Francix: shows [Td Kd] (a pair of Tens)
    Andy McLEOD: shows [Ad As] (three of a kind, Aces)
    Andy McLEOD collected 11290 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 11290 | Rake 0
    Board [9s Ts Ah 4s 5c]
    Seat 1: PolishGreat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: kwob20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: analtmezer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: DeuceBuster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: puppy1369 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Andy McLEOD showed [Ad As] and won (11290) with three of a kind, Aces
    Seat 7: lordhuttyx (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Francix (small blind) showed [Td Kd] and lost with a pair of Tens
    Seat 9: Bella-GG (big blind) folded on the Flop
     
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    Jun 11th, 2007 (6/11/2007 11:52pm) in reply to Francix

    how where you pretty sure he didnt have Ax?
  3. Francix Francix is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2007 (6/11/2007 11:54pm) in reply to Admiral

    I don't see him limp a Big ace with his stack on the cutoff and our stacks on the blinds. And i'm pretty sure he doesnt limp a-rag too often.
    A-x was excluded for me, but maybe i'm wrong.
     
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  4. H@BB@KUK H@BB@KUK is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2007 (6/12/2007 12:00am) in reply to Francix

    i think the reason you raise is to see where you are at, he came over the top of that raise...i think you have to lay that down(off the flop\no raise)...there are so many hands that he could limp with that, that flop hits...easy fold really
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    Jun 12th, 2007 (6/12/2007 12:04am) in reply to H@BB@KUK

    I know my call was bad, but what i want to discuss is, what was he limping with?
    And beside, if he was limping with something else that A-A, i'm pretty sure what he was rereraising what most likely a draw, so my call would have been correct.
     
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  6. NetFan44 NetFan44 is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2007 (6/12/2007 12:10am) in reply to Francix

    I think his range is AA and AA only
  7. H@BB@KUK H@BB@KUK is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2007 (6/12/2007 12:14am) in reply to Francix

    honestly his range can be anything, his chipstack is overwhelming compared to the average, so i can see why you believe your hand was ahead but after he re raised, i think you have to know you are beat...
  8. eddie24b eddie24b is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2007 (6/12/2007 12:21am) in reply to H@BB@KUK

    theres only one to play this the right way with your stack and be able to get away from it on the flop--lead out with a bet-that way you have 700-800 in pot and if you get popped you let it go.the line you took is awfull you committed your self with the CR here and folding is not a option.for what he could have its hard to tell but you lead out here and get info on your bet to make a correct play- you cant guess a limpers cards without gaining some info
     
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