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What would you do...? Call/Reraise/Fold?

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  1. RNoble33 RNoble33 is offline

    Alfred, ME
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    Apr 2nd, 2006 (4/2/2006 9:48pm)

    pokerstars Game #4502095602: Tournament #21925837, Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2006/04/02 - 21:28:26 (ET)
    Table '21925837 41' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: savage6970 (9460 in chips)
    Seat 2: HayabusaBill (7052 in chips)
    Seat 3: mcmeece (20320 in chips)
    Seat 4: Fallan44 (19255 in chips)
    Seat 6: DD Ranch (10987 in chips)
    Seat 7: RNoble33 (12355 in chips)
    Seat 8: GarettB123 (1218 in chips)
    Seat 9: nailbinder (7669 in chips)
    savage6970: posts the ante 50
    HayabusaBill: posts the ante 50
    mcmeece: posts the ante 50
    Fallan44: posts the ante 50
    DD Ranch: posts the ante 50
    RNoble33: posts the ante 50
    GarettB123: posts the ante 50
    nailbinder: posts the ante 50
    RNoble33: posts small blind 300
    GarettB123: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to RNoble33 [Jc 9d]
    nailbinder: folds
    savage6970: folds
    HayabusaBill: folds
    ontiltagain is connected
    mcmeece: calls 600
    Fallan44: calls 600
    DD Ranch: calls 600
    RNoble33: calls 300
    GarettB123: raises 568 to 1168 and is all-in
    mcmeece: calls 568
    Fallan44: calls 568
    DD Ranch: calls 568
    RNoble33: calls 568
    *** FLOP *** [Tc Jd 5s]
    RNoble33: bets 1200
    mcmeece: folds
    Fallan44: calls 1200
    DD Ranch: calls 1200
    *** TURN *** [Tc Jd 5s] [7c]
    RNoble33: bets 1200
    Fallan44: calls 1200
    DD Ranch: calls 1200
    *** RIVER *** [Tc Jd 5s 7c] [6d]
    RNoble33: checks
    Fallan44: checks
    DD Ranch: bets 4200
    RNoble33: folds
    Fallan44: folds
    RNoble33 said, "J9"
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    DD Ranch: shows [Kh Qd] (high card King)
    DD Ranch collected 7200 from side pot
    GarettB123: shows [Qc 7d] (a pair of Sevens)
    GarettB123 collected 6240 from main pot
    RNoble33 said, "geez DD"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 13440 Main pot 6240. Side pot 7200. | Rake 0
    Board [Tc Jd 5s 7c 6d]
    Seat 1: savage6970 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: HayabusaBill folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: mcmeece folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: Fallan44 folded on the River
    Seat 6: DD Ranch (button) showed [Kh Qd] and won (7200) with high card King
    Seat 7: RNoble33 (small blind) folded on the River
    Seat 8: GarettB123 (big blind) showed [Qc 7d] and won (6240) with a pair of Sevens
    Seat 9: nailbinder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. RNoble33 RNoble33 is offline

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    Apr 2nd, 2006 (4/2/2006 10:18pm) in reply to RNoble33

    somebody give me some advice...
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  3. hitthenuts hitthenuts is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2006 (4/4/2006 12:37am) in reply to RNoble33

    This is my thinking.... (irrelevent of what you did)

    really depends on the circumstances and players involved, but with a tight image at this table, push on flop for sure.... you have flopped top pair with a moderate kicker and considering the shortstacks position of all in, you probably have him beat (he most likely cant afford to wait for QQ, KK, AA to go all in). this only leaves the two other guys to worry about... there is a range of hands they could be on will the small preflop call, you could ponder these all day (AJ being the most likely threatening one, or perhaps a small pp set... either way you should hopefully find out quickly where you stand, i would like to find out by throwing a sizeable bet out there and without knowing their hands, would hope for them to fold here.... If they call, I would slow down and check/fold to the river, unless you get a read on them from the flop call and it appears they missed a draw. If raised, fold and learn about his play from the cards shown at the end...

    If it happens that your image is loose, OR you are playing with donkeys, checkfold from flop onwards, hope to hit set or two pair.

    In regard to your play....

    I would have played the hand very similarly to the way you did... if you have the confidence and the circumstances fit, push maybe 3000-4000 on the flop rather than 1200. DD will most likely fold in this situation with KQ (unless he is a donk, which he may be, i dont know... what was your take on him?), my guess also is that fallan was perhaps playing Ace-rag or low pp in which case he probably would have folded to a raise of 3000-4000 on the flop also. considering you didnt push as hard and bet 1200, from here on in i would have played the hand exactly as you did.
  4. isuck123 isuck123 is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2006 (4/4/2006 2:24am) in reply to RNoble33

    HE called 2 of your bets
    he committed a LOT of chips on the river
    you fold
     
  5. gofrank150 gofrank150 is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2006 (4/4/2006 2:32pm) in reply to RNoble33

    Sucks being out of position with a mediocre hand don't it?

    Good bluff by him on the end, you have to give him credit.

    The pot was 5840 on the flop. What were you hoping to accomplish with a 1200 bet? Much too small to do anything. You are going to get called by anyone that has about anything at all. If you are going to fire here, you should come out stronger. If you get called then you slow down and hope to check it down - you are behind way too many hands that would call you.
  6. JC_Saves JC_Saves is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2006 (4/4/2006 9:20pm) in reply to RNoble33

    Insta-fold, what is the big question here? You have a crappy hand why are you completing with it?

    Save your chips so you can use them later to put pressure on people. This is a really crappy hand and this is what happens when you play a crappy hand
  7. craftman craftman is offline

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    Apr 5th, 2006 (4/5/2006 2:19pm) in reply to JC_Saves

    Checking on the river after two bets looks like a missed draw (or a weak pair since you shouldn't be semi-bluffing a dry side pot). Keep up your betting, and DD can't raise you on the river there.
  8. steve299 steve299 is offline

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    Apr 5th, 2006 (4/5/2006 3:45pm) in reply to hitthenuts

    A set is when you have a pocket pair and hit another on the board , trips is when the board pairs which makes three of a kind with one of your hole cards. So you mean trips!! not a set!
  9. gofrank150 gofrank150 is offline

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    Apr 6th, 2006 (4/6/2006 1:39pm) in reply to steve299

    Huh? Trips and set are both synonymous for 3 of a kind (however its formed) in my mind. Maybe other people think of it as you do but I have never heard it.

    This is the first time i've heard anyone distinguished set vs trips as to how they were made.
  10. steve299 steve299 is offline

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    Apr 8th, 2006 (4/8/2006 6:38pm) in reply to gofrank150

    It is true though look it up .... http://www.poker-babes.com/poker/definitions/
  11. alexquigley alexquigley is offline

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    Apr 8th, 2006 (4/8/2006 6:58pm) in reply to RNoble33

    Bet a lot more on that flop.
  12. hitthenuts hitthenuts is offline

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    Apr 8th, 2006 (4/8/2006 10:16pm) in reply to steve299

    right.... trips... set.... SAME thing. oh the website, woops, so thats the correct definitions.... good to know... trips and sets are still the same thing really.
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