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  1. Czar_of_TX Czar_of_TX is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2008 (6/18/2008 8:13am)

    Clintonkid had raised 3 of the last 4 hands and we were 1 minute from break and blind increase. I had 13BBs behind but after next hand and blind increase I would have less than 10bbs. Would you fold and hope to find a better spot or shove now?

    pokerstars Game #18212469871: Tournament #92043021, $9.00+$0.90 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2008/06/18 - 01:27:32 (ET)

    Table '92043021 14' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: WinkyBee (51100 in chips)
    Seat 2: jmoney745 (46161 in chips)
    Seat 3: clintonkid (96436 in chips)
    Seat 4: 15lbsNUTS (84108 in chips)
    Seat 5: Rockin Rik (42733 in chips)
    Seat 7: Czar_of_TX (42868 in chips)
    Seat 8: steamer500 (25972 in chips)
    Seat 9: pat9913 (150622 in chips)
    WinkyBee: posts the ante 300
    jmoney745: posts the ante 300
    clintonkid: posts the ante 300
    15lbsNUTS: posts the ante 300
    Rockin Rik: posts the ante 300
    Czar_of_TX: posts the ante 300
    steamer500: posts the ante 300
    pat9913: posts the ante 300
    Rockin Rik: posts small blind 1500
    Czar_of_TX: posts big blind 3000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Czar_of_TX [Qs Kc]
    steamer500: folds
    pat9913: folds
    WinkyBee: folds
    jmoney745: folds
    clintonkid: raises 6000 to 9000
    15lbsNUTS: folds
    Rockin Rik: folds
    Czar_of_TX:???????????
  2. kxywrx kxywrx is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2008 (6/18/2008 8:29am) in reply to Czar_of_TX

    i definitely shove here
     
  3. Czar_of_TX Czar_of_TX is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2008 (6/18/2008 9:19am) in reply to kxywrx

    thx kx.. I did and he snap called a9 clubs and it held. For some reason it feels spewey to jam here. I guess its the only play. Does anyone else play it diff?
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  4. jsmanuel jsmanuel is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2008 (6/18/2008 9:49am) in reply to Czar_of_TX

    You busted me from this tourney A10>JJ in 15th, but I'd shove all day. Clintonkid went on to TID.
  5. repo_man456 repo_man456 is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2008 (6/18/2008 10:05am) in reply to Czar_of_TX

    I'm folding here without a specific read on clintonkid; overshoves from the BB are going to be snap called if he has any hand

    What hand are you hoping he has? Do you want a call or fold?
     
  6. Czar_of_TX Czar_of_TX is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2008 (6/18/2008 10:12am) in reply to jsmanuel

    Sorry jsam.. I think I was playing a sick rush at that time and had the chips to gamble.
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  7. EddieO EddieO is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2008 (6/18/2008 10:24am) in reply to repo_man456

    Repo man said it well, the shove coming from the big blind usually doesn't get much respect especially with your stack size facing a big stack open raise - since a case could be made to shove a very wide range and the open raiser knows that. Shoving KQ is so marginal that I dont find its a very good reshoving hand because if you get called your going to be dominated or racing, I'd rather Shove a hand like 89ss because your less likely to get called by a hand like A9, or A8.
  8. bluefin bluefin is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2008 (6/18/2008 10:28am) in reply to Czar_of_TX

    Given his position, chip stack and recent activity, I would shove here. His range certainly can be wider then KQo. A double up through one of the chip leaders is what you need to make any real money.
  9. TheVillageGrinder TheVillageGrinder is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2008 (6/18/2008 12:05pm) in reply to Czar_of_TX

    Shoving can't be faulted here, imo, especially if he had been really active. Problem is if he's raising with a decent hand, he's getting too good of a price not to call your shove.

    This is a tough spot tho. I don't think foldign or shoving can be criticized. Just know that if you do fold, you'll need to start getting pretty active in the next round and shoving a wiiiiiiiide range of hands when its folded to you in late position.
  10. Czar_of_TX Czar_of_TX is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2008 (6/18/2008 4:44pm) in reply to TheVillageGrinder

    Just a tough spot... Thanks for all the replies. I think that if he calls you are probably going to be dominated or a slight dog... very player dependent play I guess. I think KQ crushes his range (based on his play leading up to this hand). I could fold and hope to find a "better spot". But I always prefer to take a proactive approach and risking an early bust (instead of being forced to shove 6 bbs with 33 or some garbage like that). GL
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  11. dcoop45 dcoop45 is offline

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    Jun 19th, 2008 (6/19/2008 3:55pm) in reply to Czar_of_TX

    ccczzzzaaaarrrrrrrr what up bro. in the hand, raise to 28598 to mak it look redicoulusly strong ur obv not folding. cmon now, when does kq ever lose. Kq=internutz
     
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    Jun 19th, 2008 (6/19/2008 4:38pm) in reply to Czar_of_TX

    I pretty much would snap shove there...also, youre to my left in a 4.40
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    Jun 19th, 2008 (6/19/2008 4:43pm) in reply to Goodburger

    well...not anymore after AK<J10 aipf
  14. Czar_of_TX Czar_of_TX is offline

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    Jun 19th, 2008 (6/19/2008 5:42pm) in reply to dcoop45

    Dcoopaments.... internutz ftw. Crush forth.
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  15. Czar_of_TX Czar_of_TX is offline

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    Jun 19th, 2008 (6/19/2008 5:43pm) in reply to Goodburger

    Gross goodburger... i hope it wasnt me who had the J10. gl
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  16. jordankickz jordankickz is offline

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    Jun 19th, 2008 (6/19/2008 5:55pm) in reply to Czar_of_TX

    anything besides shove is terrible
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