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what is your play here and why at a final table??

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  1. pjm6321 pjm6321 is offline

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    Dec 16th, 2009 (12/16/2009 5:57pm)

    just got down to 9 people like 2 hands into it.. UTG limped which kind of scared me, so i also limped after him with JJ.. then a guy shoves 67K stack, and UTG folds..

    pokerstars Game #36791815352: Tournament #221476303, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIV (1250/2500) - 2009/12/16 18:49:52 ET
    Table '221476303 15' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: supershlang (39922 in chips)
    Seat 2: -tablesa- (66673 in chips)
    Seat 3: danny73 (45838 in chips)
    Seat 4: asdepique63 (158974 in chips)
    Seat 5: FlushMan Dan (54150 in chips)
    Seat 6: phranz (86521 in chips)
    Seat 7: pjm6321 (64050 in chips)
    Seat 8: Zilbye (369926 in chips)
    Seat 9: nissartcorse (52946 in chips)
    supershlang: posts the ante 500
    -tablesa-: posts the ante 500
    danny73: posts the ante 500
    asdepique63: posts the ante 500
    FlushMan Dan: posts the ante 500
    phranz: posts the ante 500
    pjm6321: posts the ante 500
    Zilbye: posts the ante 500
    nissartcorse: posts the ante 500
    asdepique63: posts small blind 1250
    FlushMan Dan: posts big blind 2500
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to pjm6321 [Js Jh]
    phranz: calls 2500
    pjm6321: calls 2500
    Zilbye: folds
    nissartcorse: folds
    supershlang: folds
    -tablesa-: raises 63673 to 66173 and is all-in
    danny73: folds
    asdepique63: folds
    FlushMan Dan: folds
    phranz: folds
    pjm6321: ????????
  2. fly44 fly44 is offline

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    Dec 16th, 2009 (12/16/2009 5:59pm) in reply to pjm6321

    I shove because I have a jack and a jack.
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  3. moewells100 moewells100 is offline

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    Dec 16th, 2009 (12/16/2009 6:06pm) in reply to fly44

    I also shove. Without any reads this shove seems rather weak, I don't think qq, kk or aa are in his range. I think at worst your up against two overs, and a fair percentage of the time your a 4:1 favorite vs mid pairs. Also, although it would suck to finish 9th, you are playing for 1st, so confrontation is inevitable.

    out of curiousity, what did he have?
  4. chiptaker31 chiptaker31 is offline

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    Dec 16th, 2009 (12/16/2009 6:15pm) in reply to pjm6321

    his range is pretty wide here with 2 limpers. I have made this move with AA to make it look weak, so i would so there isn't a chance he has AA,kk,QQ. That said i still maek the call
  5. mdshack14 mdshack14 is offline

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    Dec 16th, 2009 (12/16/2009 6:16pm) in reply to pjm6321

    I wager all of my remaining chips. I'm thinking you're racing at the very worst here. Gotta get em in here. Just because you're at the final table doesn't mean that these players are only shoving premium hands.
     
  6. pjm6321 pjm6321 is offline

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    Dec 16th, 2009 (12/16/2009 6:16pm) in reply to moewells100

     
    Originally Posted by moewells100 View Post

    I also shove. Without any reads this shove seems rather weak, I don't think qq, kk or aa are in his range. I think at worst your up against two overs, and a fair percentage of the time your a 4:1 favorite vs mid pairs. Also, although it would suck to finish 9th, you are playing for 1st, so confrontation is inevitable.

    out of curiousity, what did he have?

    that was exactly my thought.. i ruled out AA and KK immediately, thought def possibility of AK, but im calling if he showed that hand face up, i want to win, i will flip without question.. i also thought alot of mid pairs a weak player might shove here, and i had just seen the guy call a raise with ace 7, so i called.. he had QQ.. obviously im not happy to lose but im thikning more about the long term and if it was a bad play or not.. i think he got extremely lucky here because i had basically the one hand that he beats that i might call with.. im folding lower pairs and i thought to myself, it doesnt look like i have a hand as stong as JJ here so he might shove like 7/7-10/10 here, maybe even a lower pair.. i dont know..
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