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whats the best play with a set of 3s

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  1. allani12 allani12 is online now Trolls for fake prop bets

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    Jan 26th, 2012 (1/26/2012 5:11pm)

    stars $320wednsday 80grand blinds 50-100 i have 4600 chips with 3s, a mid pos player min raises i smooth call, one other player and bb call ,flop is j73 with 2 diamonds orig raiser bets 688 into a 850 pot , i smooth call , 1 fold , bb raises to 3000chips the orig raiser with 5000chips to start the hand shoves ,i call and bb with 8k in chips calls. my question is how would you play a set of 3s in this particular hand ?
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  2. BenFaz BenFaz is offline

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    Jan 26th, 2012 (1/26/2012 5:37pm) in reply to allani12

    When he bets 688 into 850 into both you and the bb i would put him on AJ/KJ and is scared of another diamond dropping, in this situation with another player i would be tempted to raise him back because im pretty sure by his sizing he is pretty strong

    Do you have any stats on the original raiser? i mean if he is a complete nit he def could have JJ but i think he would do the same with AA/KK/QQ so im going busto every time here when he has JJ. I dont play at these stakes though so lets see what other people have to say :)
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  3. Sdanby Sdanby is offline

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    Jan 26th, 2012 (1/26/2012 6:35pm) in reply to BenFaz

    pretty sure flatting a raise with 46bbs and 33, and then folding when you hit a set would be terrible.

    No way you can fold here, wp, ul.

    Like benfaz says tho i doubt hes folding when he bets 688 into 850, you can prob just shove over his flop bet because its gonna look weaker than flatting/min raising.
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    Jan 26th, 2012 (1/26/2012 6:37pm) in reply to Sdanby

    he could be over shoving 77 JJ AA KK QQ or player dependant AJ AKd AQd etc, Maybe im not following but im happy to get it in vs that range
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    Jan 27th, 2012 (1/27/2012 1:58am) in reply to BenFaz

    the donk in bb raised to 3000 with qj and the orig raiser shoved with nut flush ! and these are 320$ mtt players ! LOL
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    Jan 27th, 2012 (1/27/2012 7:28am) in reply to GutShotBen

    the only thing i would do different would be to raise the flop bet, but i see your way of playing a lot more often, and the "set" normally takes it down, at these stakes it is still poker and the same basic rules apply - make it a difficult decision for those with draws to continue to play the hand - your smooth call on the flop obv in this instance masked your hand to perfection and the qj doofus shoved - but if you had raised you may have taken the pot down there and then
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    Jan 27th, 2012 (1/27/2012 7:56am) in reply to norv

    I would not fold and probably would raise the donk lead and get it in. Smooth call is also fine but not much beats you except possibly 77 from the BB. I can't see how you can ever fold with stacks as they are and your hand being so strong even with all this action.
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    Jan 31st, 2012 (1/31/2012 11:40am) in reply to Sagacious Man

    I'm not a fan of flatting with sets on draw boards. When he bets 688 I'm raising to 1755 or something, I know it's kind of irrelevant since all of the chips got in the middle anyway but you get what I'm sayin'. People like to semi-bluff with draws way too often because they don't want you to raise, they only want a call, then they get there and they have pot control and you're in a weird spot. If they don't get there, they can fold and lose the minimum - so I think it's always best to raise.

    If I get 3bet on the flop, I make a call to my good friend Thomas McStuffinbaker. I'm never folding.

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 12:55am) in reply to mini bomberr

    So BB check raises and the first bettor shoves?

    pretty sure its not that hard to get away from a set in that spot.

    And as for $320 MTT players. Take a look at the aggression of the top MTTers and you'll find that check raising QJ for 23BBs in that spot is probably more common than you think.
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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 2:52am) in reply to C_Bomb

     
    Originally Posted by C_Bomb View Post

    And as for $320 MTT players. Take a look at the aggression of the top MTTers and you'll find that check raising QJ for 23BBs in that spot is probably more common than you think.

    The guy that check raised started the hand with 80 bbs if I'm reading the hand history correctly. Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if 23 bbs stacks off there, but with 80 bbs given the action I can't see myself ever going broke there with QJ unless I have some pretty amazing reads that I'm playing against someone that's going to stack off with a worse kicker or a lower pair.
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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 3:02am) in reply to C_Bomb

    u would fold a set on a j73 2 diamond flop??
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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 4:00am) in reply to allani12

    you played it fine, you could raise and get it in like others said which is probably what i would have done on that board with someone behind me still to act.

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 5:47am) in reply to Jason2890

    My bad, I read it wrong
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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 3:55pm) in reply to C_Bomb

    I like the way you played the hand OP with the flat on the flop.
     
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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 6:33pm) in reply to allani12

    IMO played to perfection and extracted maximum value :) WP
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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 6:57pm) in reply to Solidthought

    i'm confused ??? u got maximum chips shoved down your face and ready to be shipped in a pretty package with a pretty bow on top,seems like u played it perfect!! it seems like you are wanting to know how to avoid having this happen again and how do you eliminate a few players next time? GET THOSE CHIPS . SEND IT SEND IIIIT!

     
    Originally Posted by norv View Post

    the only thing i would do different would be to raise the flop bet, but i see your way of playing a lot more often, and the "set" normally takes it down, at these stakes it is still poker and the same basic rules apply - make it a difficult decision for those with draws to continue to play the hand - your smooth call on the flop obv in this instance masked your hand to perfection and the qj doofus shoved - but if you had raised you may have taken the pot down there and then




    and scared away a boat load of chips.............gg
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