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Whats the best PLO starting hand?

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  1. Ryan Olsen Ryan Olsen is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 5:40am)

    I'm new to the game, is there a chart somewhere with the best starting hands for PLO
  2. HateMeNow HateMeNow is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 5:46am) in reply to Ryan Olsen

    My fav is AAJT
  3. The Brainiac The Brainiac is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 5:58am) in reply to HateMeNow

    10 10 J J best , WORD .
  4. garage13 garage13 is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 6:05am) in reply to Ryan Olsen

    aa kk dbl suited.
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  5. threeven threeven is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 6:13am) in reply to Ryan Olsen

    AAJT double suited

    OR

    AAKK double suited

    only a sick game like omaha could have two best starting hands.
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  6. chinaski chinaski is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 6:23am) in reply to Ryan Olsen

    I wouldnt worry about the "best" starting hands, as plo isnt really about that, unless youre playing a shortstack and wait for aaxx to get it allin with. Its a lot tougher to have a chart, as for example KKjt is considered a good starting hand, yet when matched against aa it plays bad, whereas 89tjds would be a slight fav over aa72. Dont overplay aaxx and kkxx type of hands- you want to try and get over 40%ish in preflop with them before you can commit to any flop. As a general rule, only play 4 cards that can all work together i.e. 6789, tt98, akqj, etc. Loosen up your starting hand range in position- position is even more important in plo than nlh.
  7. Ryan Olsen Ryan Olsen is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 6:45am) in reply to chinaski

    nice response
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  8. TheWatchMan TheWatchMan is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 8:16am) in reply to Ryan Olsen

    yes, good response. buuuuut, i think overplaying any aces loses me a lot of money. when i "slowplay" the aces, i make a lot of money. if you hit an ace noone takes you for it, and aces are so easily snapped, if you keep on going all in in three way pots your varience could be through the roof.

    so i'd play them with caution nless yu can commit, as said above, about 50% of your stack preflop.

    i like AAJTssdd
  9. part1 part1 is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 8:47am) in reply to Ryan Olsen

    Aces are s**t in plo only good if you hit a set id much rather have a hand like 6789ds or 9TJQds
  10. xcalibur1120 xcalibur1120 is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 3:09pm) in reply to Ryan Olsen

    Statisically, it is AAKK ds but only by a very small margin and this is only against a single player.

    Of course when I get dealt this hand, the flop is alway 456 rainbow.
  11. pdjplano pdjplano is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 4:06pm) in reply to part1

    Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
    cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
    7s 6s 9d 8d 177967 35.59 322033 64.41 0 0.00 0.356
    As Ks Ad Kd 322033 64.41 177967 35.59 0 0.00 0.644

    Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
    cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
    7s 6s 9d 8d 178089 35.62 321693 64.34 218 0.04 0.356
    As Ts Ad Jd 321693 64.34 178089 35.62 218 0.04 0.644

    Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
    cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
    7s 6s 9d 8d 207456 41.49 292374 58.47 170 0.03 0.415
    Ac Tc Ah Jh 292374 58.47 207456 41.49 170 0.03 0.585
  12. TheConArtist TheConArtist is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 4:15pm) in reply to xcalibur1120

    Late in tournaments if you have low M's and say there is a pot raise and a call, then AA is valuable because you are a favourite vs everything pre and so can ship it in profitably. AAxx does not play well post flop however and when deep stacked it loses nearly all its value. Starting hand selection is important in PLO and most people play far too many hands. Like a low pair and two other connectors is a pretty garbage hand but people won't let it go because they look at it and think it has great potential. Like 337d8d. Its an ok hand in certain spots but people will play it out of position in raised pots far too often.

    PLO is much more about post flop, if you are reasonably nitty (compared to others i mean not compared to NLHE obv) with starting hand selection OOP and play good post flop in it, you can be very succesful imo as most people, especially at low limits, have no clue what they are doing.
  13. stevie444 stevie444 is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2007 (9/17/2007 4:23pm) in reply to Ryan Olsen

    I dont play PLO but im guessing on stars the best hand is gunna be KQKQ double off suit, no?
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