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whats the most optimal play? kinda weird spot

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  1. WHATL3Y WHATL3Y is offline

    Atlanta, GA
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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 9:02pm)

    just got 18 handed this hand and villain is new to table (with huge stack as shown). hes CL and im in 4th or 5th, cant remember... just can't really figure out most optimal play here:

    flatting pre, 3-bet to 95k then calling to shove (obv not 3bet/folding and turning AQo into a bluff pre right??), 3-bet shoving, folding (cant see this being right)... anyways, thanks for any insight

    <span>pokerstars Game #43906671845: Tournament #270882099, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXII (7000/14000) - 2010/05/10 19:49:01 ET
    Table '270882099 97' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: smkriscunas (194383 in chips)
    Seat 2: asdf78 (435780 in chips)
    Seat 3: sypbmw (451301 in chips)
    Seat 4: levcsi25 (1690860 in chips)
    Seat 5: cDavids (162469 in chips)
    Seat 6: caincain29 (234256 in chips)
    Seat 7: WHATL3Y (451540 in chips)
    Seat 8: Spoker88 (291328 in chips)
    Seat 9: JyLuK (374020 in chips)
    smkriscunas: posts the ante 1750
    asdf78: posts the ante 1750
    sypbmw: posts the ante 1750
    levcsi25: posts the ante 1750
    cDavids: posts the ante 1750
    caincain29: posts the ante 1750
    WHATL3Y: posts the ante 1750
    Spoker88: posts the ante 1750
    JyLuK: posts the ante 1750
    smkriscunas: posts small blind 7000
    asdf78: posts big blind 14000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to WHATL3Y [Ad Qs]
    sypbmw: folds
    levcsi25: raises 28000 to 42000
    cDavids: folds
    caincain29: folds
    WHATL3Y: ?????</span>
  2. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 9:09pm) in reply to WHATL3Y

    Since its low buy in i make the 3b like 120k or so and then bet/commit the flop unless you hit big. Too many times you 3b small, they flat, then you got weird stack/pot ratio. For instance, 95k might induce a light shove but doubtful since it's 3 buy in...then the pot is like 200k and what do you do then? Bet 100k and fold for your last 250? I just make it 120k, pot will be 260k, bet 175k and call any c/r shoves he might do. If you bink Q53 type board, bet lower than what you 3b to, and obviously call a shove. Might also want to consider checking behind a dry Axx board as well if you hit and induce on later streets.
  3. beorn22 beorn22 is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 9:11pm) in reply to WHATL3Y

    Foldings not an option. I think this is a clear 3 bet to somewhere around 100k. I dont like jamming because that makes him fold what your beating and calling with whats beating you. This is not really an awkward spot because you have position here. The only wierd thing is when he calls, how to pick your bet size.

    GL
  4. feedthemfish feedthemfish is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 10:26pm) in reply to beorn22

    I like the 3 bet here.
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