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What's VPIP?

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  1. doomed222 doomed222 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:31pm)

    Some guy asked how the play at the table was (he was moved to us) and jE said...

    jE 303: pretty loose too. avg vpip is like 45
    doomed222: whats vpip?
    khamkham: yeah
    jE 303: lol ur obviously doomed if u don't know that
    khamkham: what is vpip

    anyone?

    Maybe it's common knowledge, but I've never heard it used before.
  2. TiltinShoes TiltinShoes is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:34pm) in reply to doomed222

    I think it means volentary money put in preflop. And 45 is very loose. This excludes blinds but I believe it includes anything else including limping, could be wrong.
  3. namniewd namniewd is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:36pm) in reply to TiltinShoes

    tiltin is right...

    around 20 for tag's... 30-40 for lags... anything higher is just a spewtard
  4. DexterCain DexterCain is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:36pm) in reply to TiltinShoes

    yes, $ voluntarily put in pot
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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:37pm) in reply to TiltinShoes

    any call or raise preflop is included in VPIP%, and yes 45% is extremely loose.
     
  6. Retributi0n Retributi0n is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:43pm) in reply to DexterCain

    i've also heard the term 1000 times but as i don't have PT i never really put much stock into the exact definition. after investing in a training website there is discussion over VPIP all the time so i'm curious as to exactly what it is... is it money voluntarily put into the pot in relation to HANDS YOU PLAY or relative to overall money put into pots at the table? or am i just compeltely off base here?
  7. DexterCain DexterCain is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:46pm) in reply to Retributi0n

    its % of times you voluntarily put ANY money in the pot. 40% would be you contributing money to 40% of hands youre dealt into.
  8. Retributi0n Retributi0n is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:49pm) in reply to DexterCain

    oooooh ok, thanks for the clarification!

    so someone with a $VPIP of 40 and AF of 8 or so would be considered a loose calling station essentially? (im talking about overall, i know there are slight exceptions)
  9. TiltinShoes TiltinShoes is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:53pm) in reply to Retributi0n

    I want to play against that guy!
  10. DexterCain DexterCain is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:53pm) in reply to Retributi0n

    AF of 8 would be very aggressive. So probably not likely to be a calling station, but loose for sure.
  11. doomed222 doomed222 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:55pm) in reply to doomed222

    Thanks

    He actually gave me the first word and I figured it out in about 2 seconds but I had already posted lol

    He's talking about stoxpoker and says its the best site for coaching/forum...

    I signed up for the free version...anyone a member know anything about it?
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