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when to get up from a cash game?

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  1. bucman33 bucman33 is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2007 (12/8/2007 10:25pm)

    So today I was playing the 3-5nl game at hollywood park casino in LA. This game, the max buyin is $200 so you play shortstacked until you build. I bought in 3 times (was in for $600) before finally building up my stack, and got up to about $1700 (obv brag post). because people had to buy in so short, no one else really had more than $800 on the table. I was a couple hours into my session but I was feeling good and could keep going for a while.
    Am I giving up too good of an opportunity by walking away from the table up $1100, knowing I could push the table around and make more? or should I be smart, take my money and not risk losing anything?
  2. FlyinHawaiin FlyinHawaiin is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2007 (12/8/2007 10:31pm) in reply to bucman33

    Stay as long as you are playing at your very best.... frame of mind, atttude, decisions, not tired etc....

    Otherwise cash out. being up 5.5 buyins aint bad either

    aloha
  3. bukahkiparty bukahkiparty is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2007 (12/8/2007 10:32pm) in reply to bucman33

    This is a very tough decision. The only way I would get up from a cash game would be

    1) If a nuclear missle crashed into the building.
    2) If someone physically attacked me.
    3) Asian hooker
    4) If I won powerball
    5) If KIM JONG IL requested my presence in his dungeon
  4. JamesBont JamesBont is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2007 (12/8/2007 10:32pm) in reply to bucman33

    I leave when the GF calls. It's a lose lose situation either I'm down and shes mad at me for losing or I'm having a good run and she's mad that I'm not spending time with her.
  5. Ol_Keepa Ol_Keepa is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2007 (12/8/2007 10:36pm) in reply to JamesBont

    Same here...I feel for you!
  6. xTEDFORRESTx xTEDFORRESTx is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2007 (12/8/2007 10:48pm) in reply to bucman33

    "or should I be smart, take my money and not risk losing anything? "

    I don't understand what that means. The way to not risk losing anything is to not play at all in the first place.

    You should stay in the game as long as you are not tired, you are playing your 'A' game, or the other player's are so bad you are going to make money anyways.

    You should leave a game if you don't feel good, aren't playing well, or the table has tightened up, better players, etc. and you have little chance of winning.

    Notice that neither of these choices for staying or leaving has anything to do with how much money you happen to be up or down at the time.
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    Dec 8th, 2007 (12/8/2007 10:58pm) in reply to bucman33

    Before I sit down I always think about my plan and at what point I will leave. Now sometimes this changes b/c of the table, but I usually have a good idea of what I'm getting into. My normal rule is 3.5-4 buyins. Sometimes I set time limits... like 3.5-4 buying or 7 hrs. Sessions depend on feeling, but a some point, it's always +EV to get get up and enjoy the rest of the day.
    -GL, KR
  8. Jack_Diamondz Jack_Diamondz is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2007 (12/8/2007 11:14pm) in reply to bucman33

    Don't think about the Money and think about your focus.

    If your thinking about leaving for any reason, then leave, as I find when I'm ready to go I'll be inclined to gamble a little more.

    If your sitting at 1700 and are still focused on playing good poker, then stay and rake those fish. But if you feel like you've had your fill then leave, as a little more might be nice, but if you've lost your focus you're more likely to leave with a little less.
  9. bucman33 bucman33 is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2007 (12/8/2007 11:51pm) in reply to Jack_Diamondz

    thank you...this all makes a lot of sense

    ive been mostly a tournament player thus my results tell me when to get up. now that i live in the LA area im trying to get more into cash games because there are so many and they are so freaking juicy

    i ended up walking away from this one but something tells me next time if i'm still focused and going i'm going to stay
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  10. LesW LesW is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2007 (12/9/2007 12:18am) in reply to bucman33

    I would like to say this; personally it is hard for me to not go on some kind of tilt (loose PF calls or chasing draws post flop etc) 3 buy ins or more up, just can't do it. I have found that for my style and psychology I should leave when I am sitting with 2.5max buy ins unless I have a unique situation.

    I strongly suggest you find out how many chips your optimum play level is at if you have one and try to stick to it. I know some people can sit with 10BIs and crush I just can't.
  11. AllYourChips AllYourChips is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2007 (12/9/2007 1:28am) in reply to LesW

    I find it interesting that you can't play your "A" game with more than 3 buy-ins ahead of you. I love playing deep stacked, and especially when I have the table soooooo covered. Everybody knows that if they want to play a hand against you it can be for their stack. That is such an advantage and gives a lot of hidden fold equity that you might not even think about.

    That being said, I get up when I don't have an edge anymore. I can lose my edge for several reasons: getting tired, on tilt, personal issues come up i.e. getting an upsetting text message or something, when fish are replaced by sharks, when my image is ruined, and many more. But aslong as I have an edge, then my butt is gonna be in the seat. But then again, I kind of have to be there. If you're just playing for fun and to make extra money on the side, leave when you want to. If the thought of losing a bunch back scares you or takes you away from your game, then call it a night and come back tomorrow or whatever.

    There are two types of people who play cash games: those who expect to win money and those who hope to win money. When you cross over from expect to hope, then it's time to get up.
  12. bucman33 bucman33 is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2007 (12/9/2007 1:53am) in reply to AllYourChips

    oh trust me, in this game, i expect to win money. there are a wide range of players in this game but very very few are sharks. some that you sit down and expect to be sharks or talk like they may be sharks are so passive its not even funny.

    one of the main reasons i asked is because of the structure of the game. its a 3-5nl game, but a $200 buyin. If you lose the $200, you can rebuy for up to $300. one of the main edges in this game is that most players wont play a big pot without the nuts. i even see players with monster hands just asking their opponent to check it down on the turn and river...leaving it up the cards rather than skill. in a game like this, having a deep stack can be huge because i can risk a little what is a lot to someone else.

    that being said, i am playing to make money, and i have been told in the past to set a limit and if i reach that limit of profit to get up.

    i guess the bottom line is that when i have an edge, the amount that ive made doesnt matter
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  13. 4Boogie 4Boogie is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2007 (12/9/2007 2:25am) in reply to bucman33

    do what feels right. so many times I've been up and thought to myself its time to go, take a bad beat and lose most of most of my stack. If I'd listen to my gut I'd be much better off. Your first instinct is usually right
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    Dec 9th, 2007 (12/9/2007 3:48am) in reply to bucman33

    Everything that I've ever read says to play "hours, not results". But in my own experience, whenever I am up a good amount, the bad beat inevitably comes and then I'm stuck there building my stack all over again(or not) and wishing I had left earlier when I was happy with my profit for the day.
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