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  1. I have been playing online poker since about '06. Started great on 888 poker. But put way more money into this game than I have taken out. When is it time to say quit. I really would like to learn how to actually make money at this game, but so far its just costing a bunch. I heard a story that Daniel N. went broke several times before hitting it big. Does it just take one big win or what.... help please.
  2. Switch your focus from making money to learning the game. Start at the bottom and beat every level as you move up studying all the way.
     
  3. most people go broke. try to talk to people better then you sig up for a trainging site n if u learn nothing quit... hope this helps have to learn before u get better
     
  4. If you don't play for a living then you should quit when you stop enjoying it. Sounds like you need a break now. Take some time off, come back when your hungry to play again.
  5. As Jlizard says, if you're not having fun, stop playing. I would add that if it's causing you financial stress you should quit playing for money and just play the free stuff.
     
  6. correct response here is to redeposit
  7. I think this has been aswered already. If you are NOT enjoying it, quit now. If the money you are lossing is significant, and money you cant affort to lose, quit now. If you are enjoying it but are lossing money move down some levels and study study study.

    I cant access your profile or stats at work so dont know what levels you have been playing at. Play at the lowest levels, gradually work throgh the levels when you have beaten one over a significant sample.

    I am AT BEST a break even player, but I do love playing the game (do have phases of hating it lol) . If i have minimal money online I will happily play a load of 10c/360's on stars for the buzz and chalenge. I am a recreational player though who plays for entertainment, IF i can make any money from it thats just a bonus.

    Good luck with your decision
  8. redeposit obv, run good, have fun...oh and fold pre
     
  9.  
    Originally Posted by JLizard View Post

    If you don't play for a living then you should quit when you stop enjoying it. Sounds like you need a break now. Take some time off, come back when your hungry to play again.

    This ^^^^^^^^^ is what i did i stopped playin online for 2 years just recently came back to the game a few months ago cuz i missed it, and i really enjoy it. Although i am not a winning player YET i decide i am going to learn to beat it. Never stop studying always aim to be better. GL
  10. If your not enjoying it because you aren't winning then I think quitting may not be the right answer. There were many times early on when I was running bad using poor BR management that I wanted to quit. I am so glad I stuck with it. I am not sure how much you are down or even if you are but let's say over 2 years your down $2k when you get to the point where you are a winning player $2k isn't that hard to recoup. If you just don't enjoy poker anymore then I'd say quit. But time off does help when things seem like they are not going your way.
     
  11. Really hard to answer this without knowing more. If you can't afford your losses, stop now(and self ban yourself from sites).
    Assuming you can afford it, if you aren't enjoying the game, give it up until you do. Right now, your paying for the entertainment, if you could spend the money better, do it.

    If you still want to play, what levels do you play at? If you play smaller tournies under $5 buyins, with some patience, they are beatable.
  12. checked your profile, looks like you hit for $150 on AP about a week and a half ago and that you mostly play 5$ buy-ins and lower. since your probably not looking to grind sit-n-goes till you build a roll, i would play only $1 and 2$ dollar buy-in MTT's for a while assuming you still have a good piece of that $150 and whatever you had before. it always sucks when you start running bad, but if you play the lowest levels that you can play you'll find that it doesn't hurt you as bad because you can still afford to play more. it takes people a long time to learn that, including myself, but if you learn to play within your limits then the game actually does become alot more fun and profitable. gl to you
  13. As stated by others in this thread, I would definitely think if you're losing you should focus on playing the right limits for your bankroll. If you have $100 in your account play $1, $2 tournaments occasionally playing the $5 level. This will allow you to get in 50-100 tournament before going broke (if you constantly lose). You need to become a consistent winner before you dig a deeper whole with higher limits.

    And if you do lose more frequently than you win, study the game, pick up a book or join a training site as others stated. A book I recently found useful was 'Winning Poker Tournaments One Hand at a Time'. Pearljammer, Rizen and Apestyles are proven online winners and studying winning strategies then morphing them into your own can only affect your game in a positive way.

    Oh...and run good, it never hurts to suck out when you need it most :)
    Edited By: DharmaMC Aug 20th, 2010 at 05:22 PM
  14. One should quit anything once one has lost the joy and enthusiasm of doing it.
     
  15. a key to studying anything wheather it be poker accounting is to not just read the material or watch a video but to comprehend what is being said and learn something from it. if you are not learning something ask questions for help to you comprehend whats going on. i think if you go by this principal you can find ur second opportunity at poker more fulfilling.
  16. Maybe your not playing very good. Take a break come back and play a basic style for a while, and move up. Try sit-n-gos cash games, stud games, try to make it fun.
    I ain't making money either but Ill never give up trying!
    I can't believe Darvin checked the nuts on the river. How can you outplay a guy that dumb. You cant, you just need the cards sometimes.
  17. You definitely have to have the desire to learn. If you want to keep signing up for tournies and trying to luckbox your way to wins, it's most likely not going to happen(as you've seen). Read books, sign up for a training site. Invest a little of the money you're currently losing at the tables into learning some strategies and get a little higher level understanding of things. It will help a TON and put you in position to do really well. Then you just have to have some run goods mixed in with some good play, and things will come around. I've been playing for 7 years, more consistently for the last 2-3, and have yet to bink a big score, but I believe I play well, continually learn from people who have had great successes, and have been able to basically pay for all my MTT buy-ins through small cashing in them and profitably grinding SGs. And I'm not doing it for a living, just because I enjoy it.
  18. i played mtt 1$-10$ for a few years and got pissed all the time. the variance of playing in games with fields ranging in the 2-5K people is ridiculous. Is it beatable yes, is it worth it no, not unless you understand you will lose alot before you win one. which is horrible when you work a regular job and only play night or whenever your not working. i remember playing in the 5$ 4k person tournies that start at around 7 eastern time. if i would make the final table i would be playing till 1 in the morning and have to be back at work at 8 the next morning. after doing that a few times i decided it was not worth it. i played cash games for awhile, once you learn the adjustments cash is much more rewarding day to day. you dont have that sick rush of a final table but you also dont have epic fails day in day out for weeks. all cash games below 25$ some even say 50$ are easily beatable. lately i have been playing single table sngs just to experiment with them for fun so far i have found anythng under 10$ stt is super easy. so long you have patience and can fold- if you are a showdonw monkey then stt's are not a good idea.

    playing one type of poker or one area of that type of poker isnt a good idea. you could be the best cash game player alive but if you never play them you wont know, not saying you havnt tried things other then mtts. i think alot of players dont ever branch out and the result is never learning what they are truly best at
  19.  
    Originally Posted by DharmaMC View Post

    As stated by others in this thread, I would definitely think if you're losing you should focus on playing the right limits for your bankroll. If you have $100 in your account play $1, $2 tournaments occasionally playing the $5 level. This will allow you to get in 50-100 tournament before going broke (if you constantly lose). You need to become a consistent winner before you dig a deeper whole with higher limits.

    And if you do lose more frequently than you win, study the game, pick up a book or join a training site as others stated. A book I recently found useful was 'Winning Poker Tournaments One Hand at a Time'. Pearljammer, Rizen and Apestyles are proven online winners and studying winning strategies then morphing them into your own can only affect your game in a positive way.

    Oh...and run good, it never hurts to suck out when you need it most :)

    +1 on the book just picked it up lastnight, read bout the first 10 hands amazing the thought process. I go broke in most of those spots.
  20. I had the same problem at first. I was winning and my ROI was incredibly high and than just had a downswing online where i couldnt win anything. I guess that's just part of the game tho. I quit online for awhile and studied my own game. I played alot more live games where i seem to be much better than online( I really dont get it but my reads are so much more on point live than online). Went back to the home games and started crushing them and to the casinos every now and than and just gradually moved up. To be honest it is alot about confidence. You have to have high confidence yet be very disciplined. I personally had a tough time bc I was obv a NLHE player to start like most of us are. I got to playing live mid/high stakes(NOT GSN STAKES LOL) where i did very well for myself. From there I wanted to jump into the MIX games and I had a good roll from Hold em that I jumped into stakes of the mix games and Omaha games where i had no business doing. I didnt want to play low stakes bc it wasnt worth it to me but that is a foolish way to think and I learned the hard way by playing too high. I recently adjusted my attitude toward the game and LEARN the mix games at a lower level and built my roll from there. You can't have this chip on you shoulder where you think you are too good. You need to just take a step back and remember the basics and start from a comfortable stake and play with confidence. Play at the comfort level until you continously beat that level and than from there you can work your way up. Baby steps and you will become a winning player or at least have fun breaking even.
  21. i had the feeling you did about 2 months ago. I was a losing poker player, i did not know if I should just deal with my losses or just quit. I just started playing online in march. I shipped a tourney a week for the past three weeks on UB. Now I am a winning player with a +200 roi. I was really frustrated, and this week hasn't been good. I just learn to roll with the punches, because I enjoy playing. You have to enjoy it in order to pursue it.
  22. Comin from someone who should have quit a few years ago id say if your thinking its time....it probably is.

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