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  1. ParadiceCity ParadiceCity is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 1:17am)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #4311323865: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (32704052), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:15:48 ET - 2007/11/27
    Seat 1: cracknaces (1,405)
    Seat 3: Beard17 (1,375)
    Seat 4: dubins (1,545)
    Seat 5: 10d8d (3,525)
    Seat 6: ParadiceCity (1,035)
    Seat 7: WPTfuji (1,515)
    Seat 8: mqlele (1,370)
    Seat 9: fatnfurry (1,730)
    fatnfurry posts the small blind of 50
    cracknaces posts the big blind of 100
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ParadiceCity [5c 5s]
    Beard17 has 15 seconds left to act
    Beard17 folds
    dubins folds
    10d8d folds
    ParadiceCity folds
    WPTfuji folds
    mqlele folds
    fatnfurry raises to 200
    cracknaces folds
    Uncalled bet of 100 returned to fatnfurry
    fatnfurry mucks
    fatnfurry wins the pot (200)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 200 | Rake 0
    Seat 1: cracknaces (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: Beard17 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: dubins didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: 10d8d didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: ParadiceCity didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: WPTfuji didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: mqlele (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: fatnfurry (small blind) collected (200), mucked
  2. TING TING is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 1:34am) in reply to ParadiceCity

    not-me-shoveeee
  3. bruha47 bruha47 is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 1:35am) in reply to TING

    with ur stack there i shove all day
  4. ParadiceCity ParadiceCity is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 1:41am) in reply to bruha47

    I'm CO+1 and its not my stack that matters, its the stacks behind me.

    I just ran this with sngpt and there is no EV difference in pushing or folding, unless i tighten the ranges of the CO and button, but all these ppl are donk, so thats not likely
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  5. Jennifear Jennifear is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 1:44am) in reply to ParadiceCity

    Push, your fold equity is dwindling, and you have a ton of fold equity and a good backup hand if called.
  6. ParadiceCity ParadiceCity is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 1:48am) in reply to Jennifear

    Is there nothing to say about waiting for a better spot later if i think i have a skill edge?

    what about min raising or calling? I personally hate this but is it an option?
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  7. lowdog lowdog is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 2:25am) in reply to ParadiceCity

    Thats an easy fold. You only get 150 if they fold and if you get called you are 50/50 or dominated.

    Still a full table. You cant 50/50 to a cash at this point.

    If the blinds were 200-400 then thats a push, but not now
  8. nuttedup nuttedup is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 2:27am) in reply to ParadiceCity

    standard shove
  9. TheDude12424 TheDude12424 is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 5:01am) in reply to ParadiceCity

    dude no offense, but if you think that you have a skill edge, then min raising should not be one of your options.
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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 7:59am) in reply to lowdog

    Interesting.....Does it matter that this is a turbo? Are we likely to get a better hand before the BB reaches us and decreases our FE? If it were me I'd push like theres no tomorow.
  11. darkknyt darkknyt is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 8:24am) in reply to ParadiceCity

    Since it's a turbo, I am shoving with the amount of chips that you have. Good spot to double up and stay ahead of the blinds, take down the blinds, or go out and start anew.
  12. ParadiceCity ParadiceCity is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 9:13am) in reply to ParadiceCity

    thanks for the input, as I said, its a break even shove according to SNGPT, but since its a turbo, and I multi table, this seems like a shove here to me too, unless its from an earlier position.
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  13. ParadiceCity ParadiceCity is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 9:14am) in reply to TheDude12424

    I think you misread my post, I said I hate a min raise here, but just seeing if anyone had thoughts about it
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  14. Tbl_Captain Tbl_Captain is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 11:01am) in reply to ParadiceCity

    plz dont fold. please
  15. Golf_Nut01 Golf_Nut01 is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 11:16am) in reply to Tbl_Captain

    u got 10 BBs and first vigor, insta shove.
  16. seaanchor seaanchor is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 11:50am) in reply to ParadiceCity

    Fold ----- 55 is beating nothing ... best hope is a coin flip ...
     
  17. kdogpenny1 kdogpenny1 is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2007 (11/27/2007 1:47pm) in reply to seaanchor

    best hope is a coin flip won, second best is a fold.
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