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  1. kinghill kinghill is offline

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    Apr 10th, 2006 (4/10/2006 3:31am)

    Who played this worse? I'm thinking he did, even though he was ahead till the river. Wow.

    - button steal attempt, fold on flop easily unless i hit something
    - hit pair, bet trying to represent high pair or TP
    - put frank on draw or midpair, REALLY thought I could get him to fold. figured I could at least rep AQ
    - wow he called turn, going to shut down on the river unless I hit
    - 2pair.. hmm better value bet
    - 65cc LOL

    pokerstars Game #4580490240: Tournament #22780239, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/04/10 - 03:19:13 (ET)
    Table '22780239 6' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: j2daR (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: max64 (1420 in chips)
    Seat 3: ozz151 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 4: wise2dagame (1460 in chips)
    Seat 5: idc219 (1550 in chips)
    Seat 6: franknyland (1480 in chips)
    Seat 7: jh561 (1420 in chips)
    Seat 8: kusok13 (1700 in chips)
    Seat 9: shekel123 (1490 in chips) is sitting out
    kusok13: posts small blind 10
    shekel123: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jh561 [2c 4c]
    j2daR: folds
    max64: calls 20
    ozz151: folds
    wise2dagame: folds
    idc219: folds
    franknyland: calls 20
    jh561: raises 70 to 90
    kusok13: folds
    shekel123: folds
    max64: calls 70
    franknyland: calls 70
    *** FLOP *** [Tc 5s 4h]
    max64: checks
    franknyland: checks
    jh561: bets 160
    max64: folds
    franknyland: calls 160
    *** TURN *** [Tc 5s 4h] [Qd]
    franknyland: checks
    jh561: bets 340
    franknyland: calls 340
    *** RIVER *** [Tc 5s 4h Qd] [2h]
    franknyland: checks
    jh561: bets 300
    franknyland: calls 300
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    jh561: shows [2c 4c] (two pair, Fours and Deuces)
    franknyland: mucks hand
    jh561 collected 1900 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1900 | Rake 0
    Board [Tc 5s 4h Qd 2h]
    Seat 1: j2daR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: max64 folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: ozz151 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: wise2dagame folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: idc219 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: franknyland mucked [6c 5c]
    Seat 7: jh561 (button) showed [2c 4c] and won (1900) with two pair, Fours and Deuces
    Seat 8: kusok13 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: shekel123 (big blind) folded before Flop
  2. basix basix is offline

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    Apr 10th, 2006 (4/10/2006 4:48am) in reply to kinghill

    Why the hell are you trying to steal at the 10/20 level?
  3. kinghill kinghill is offline

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    Apr 10th, 2006 (4/10/2006 4:51am) in reply to basix

    Good question. I never do, that's why. Just trying some new things. Usually tight as hell during 1st hour, and well, I haven't been winning.

    Also, seems like this type of thing usually "comes back to bite ya" or some shit.
    5 hands later, got all-in on a 883 flop. I had 33, he had 55. River 5. Hello Shortstack. Coming back slowly though
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  4. GambleAB GambleAB is offline 1. I'm awesome

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    Apr 10th, 2006 (4/10/2006 4:58am) in reply to kinghill

    The reason you haven't been winning CERTAINLY isn't because you don't steal during the 10/20 level. Whats the point? You either win a super small pot and ruin your rep for later on in the tourney where blinds will actually mean something, or you will continuation bet the flop, bluff the turn, and bluff the river to lose a big pot. Very very rarely you will flop a hand and get someone to pay you off, and very very rarely you will bluff all the way down and catch a miracle river, as happened here. This will def lose you money over the long run. You played the hand worse.
     
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    Apr 10th, 2006 (4/10/2006 5:11am) in reply to GambleAB

    "This will def lose you money over the long run."
    Agreed. TY for post

    Again I've rarely if ever done this, and the times I have, were later in SNG/MTT where the pot was worth stealing from weak limpers. Definitely agree this is a losing play especially in lower buyin tourneys where you would more often get called down by 65.
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