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why didnt this work like i thought it would?

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  1. awall630 awall630 is offline

    Storrs Mansfield, CT
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    Nov 1st, 2009 (11/1/2009 7:39pm)

    Stage #1973098083 Tourney ID 4823554 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 100 - 2009-11-01 20:24:28 (ET)
    Table: 69 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - AWALL630 (6,205 in chips)
    Seat 2 - MAXUM00722 (1,280 in chips)
    Seat 3 - BFARM2484 (4,793 in chips)
    Seat 4 - DONNIEE333 (10,220 in chips)
    Seat 5 - MWCSTR8NUTZ (11,987 in chips)
    Seat 6 - PSIVEGAS (6,510 in chips)
    Seat 7 - PETEJOHNSTON (6,624 in chips)
    Seat 8 - EDVAANTAGE (7,721 in chips)
    Seat 9 - AHHLUVSPOKER (4,550 in chips)
    AHHLUVSPOKER - Posts small blind 50
    AWALL630 - Posts big blind 100
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to AWALL630 [9d 8d]
    MAXUM00722 - Folds
    BFARM2484 - Folds
    DONNIEE333 - Folds
    MWCSTR8NUTZ - Raises 300 to 300
    PSIVEGAS - Folds
    PETEJOHNSTON - Folds
    EDVAANTAGE - Folds
    AHHLUVSPOKER - Folds
    AWALL630 - Calls 200
    *** FLOP *** [2c 2d 5c]
    AWALL630 - Checks
    MWCSTR8NUTZ - Bets 325
    AWALL630 - Calls 325
    *** TURN *** [2c 2d 5c] [5s]
    AWALL630 - Checks
    MWCSTR8NUTZ - Checks
    *** RIVER *** [2c 2d 5c 5s] [10h]
    AWALL630 - Bets 1,050
    MWCSTR8NUTZ - Calls 1,050
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    AWALL630 - Shows [9d 8d] (Two Pair, fives and twos)
    MWCSTR8NUTZ - Shows [Kc Ad] (Two Pair, fives and twos)
    MWCSTR8NUTZ Collects 3,400 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total Pot(3,400)
    Board [2c 2d 5c 5s 10h]
    Seat 1: AWALL630 (big blind) HI:lost with Two Pair, fives and twos [9d 8d - B:5s,B:5c,B:2d,B:2c,B:10h]
    Seat 2: MAXUM00722 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 3: BFARM2484 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 4: DONNIEE333 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 5: MWCSTR8NUTZ won Total (3,400) HI:(3,400) with Two Pair, fives and twos(ace kicker) [Kc Ad - B:5s,B:5c,B:2d,B:2c,P:Ad]
    Seat 6: PSIVEGAS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 7: PETEJOHNSTON Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 8: EDVAANTAGE (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 9: AHHLUVSPOKER (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS

    i was pretty much dead on with his range.. havent been at the table for too long.. i thought he might give me credit for a 2 or 5 in my hand since i called pre from the bb, i decided to make it look like a was slowplaying a monster if i check called the flop and i figured best case scenario he would check behind on the turn, this would give me some pot control and let me know for sure he was pretty weak so i could lead out on the riv for pot and make it look like im betting for value. is this just a redic loose call or what did i do to make him think he might be good here?
  2. Sp1ctacular3 Sp1ctacular3 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2009 (11/1/2009 11:54pm) in reply to awall630

    Some people don't fold AK for whatever reason or an A on a double paired board, so you may have just tried to bluff the wrong person. However, a busted flush draw takes this line as well. I think a smaller bet on the river, say 600, is a little more believable though.

    Take note and value bet the hell out of him later.
  3. jesterwords jesterwords is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2009 (11/2/2009 5:36am) in reply to Sp1ctacular3

     
    Originally Posted by Sp1ctacular3 View Post

    Some people don't fold AK for whatever reason or an A on a double paired board, so you may have just tried to bluff the wrong person.

    agreed
  4. allin4flush allin4flush is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2009 (11/2/2009 12:47pm) in reply to awall630

    I agree with the sentiments above.

    1: It looks a little fishy, like a busted draw.

    2: A smaller bet would be more believable (and save you $$)

    3: This guys stack was big enough to play sherrif, especially since he's getting 2:1 and the odds of someone bluffing at that should be higher than 33%.

    4: Moves, no matter how good, don't always work. :)
  5. Sp1ctacular3 Sp1ctacular3 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2009 (11/2/2009 12:52pm) in reply to allin4flush

     
    Originally Posted by allin4flush View Post


    2: A smaller bet would be more believable (and save you $$)

    This is good stuff here, remember when you bluff you want to think of the least amount of chips you need to bet to get a player to fold.

    Also bluffing helps to balance your range and will get your value bets paid off, so don't feel too bad when you get caught.
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