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Why MR on the bubble of a SNG?

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  1. Gregrrr Gregrrr is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2010 (9/24/2010 4:01am)

    (My first post in Hand Advice)

    This is an obv shove in my book, and MR's are never in my arsenal on the bubble. So what am I missing here?
    BigAl is never RF this, so why the MR? Is it +ev to MR the middle of your pushing range to entice a light 3bet?

    Seat 1 - GREGRRR (3,849 in chips)
    Seat 3 - XJKPOKERX (3,550 in chips)
    Seat 4 - KIDPOKER1012 (2,730 in chips)
    Seat 9 - BIGAL2265 (3,371 in chips)
    GREGRRR - Ante 25
    XJKPOKERX - Ante 25
    KIDPOKER1012 - Ante 25
    BIGAL2265 - Ante 25
    GREGRRR - Posts small blind 150
    XJKPOKERX - Posts big blind 300
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to GREGRRR [6s 6d]
    KIDPOKER1012 - Folds
    BIGAL2265 - Raises 600 to 600
    GREGRRR - All-In(Raise) 3,674 to 3,824
    XJKPOKERX - Folds
    BIGAL2265 - All-In 2,746
    GREGRRR - returned (478) : not called
    *** FLOP *** [Ad 2s 4s]
    *** TURN *** [Ad 2s 4s] [Qh]
    *** RIVER *** [Ad 2s 4s Qh] [7h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    GREGRRR - Shows [6s 6d] (One pair, sixes)
    BIGAL2265 - Shows [Ah 10d] (One pair, aces)
    BIGAL2265 Collects 7,092 from main pot
  2. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2010 (9/24/2010 5:11pm) in reply to Gregrrr

    He's enticing someone to coin-flip. Since you know he's not r/f, you elect to coin-flip (no Fold ?Equity) vs his probable over cards.

    It just doesn't work in your favor, this time.

    You have gone through the blinds & could have waited for a FTA pushing situation with some Fold Equity.

    You pays your money and makes a choice. If you win this hand, you are the chip-leader ITM, and have decent odds to win.
  3. hushpuckena hushpuckena is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2010 (9/24/2010 6:35pm) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    Don't like his mr here at all, and don't believe he should be encouraging action with this type of hand.
  4. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Sep 24th, 2010 (9/24/2010 7:17pm) in reply to hushpuckena

    The min-raise is shit, and I'm guessing the Villain isn't all that good at dah pokah. He's not trying to entice anything...he just doesn't know what he's doing. You edited it off, but I'd be willing to wager this is a $5 or under SNG.

    There's little debate on the right way to play the bubble of a SNG when it comes to push/fold stacks and ranges. Min-raises ain't it.
    Edited By: grapsfan Sep 24th, 2010 at 07:24 PM
     
  5. Gregrrr Gregrrr is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2010 (9/24/2010 7:51pm) in reply to grapsfan

    It was a $20 turb and I see a lot of bubble MR's at this level. It throws me off because ICM doesn't really deal with MR's. The first time someone does it, it's tuff to put him on a range. I usually read it almost as strong as a shove. In this case I would have folded to a shove, but the MR just looked like a weak steal attempt.
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