I have for the most part been on a downswing.This is pretty much a hobby for me,but overall squeeze a big win here or there,to keep my bankroll.I have won or chopped 100r,nightly etc.
Furthermore last two months ive been suffering from vertigo,and basically,this is the only release i have to take my mind off this pain in the ass thing..And on top of all things im getting my ass handed to me...I know this!but a new trend is bluff a pot,or have the nuts,i get,Oh your a donk,your minus 21k this year..BIG FUCKIN DEAL.
I dont know who this douche of a lady who post here,named FabulousTexan.I played this am in a smaller buy in tourney,i flop a set,and get her out of pot,to get berated by a player whos total winnings for year,doesnt equal one of my wins.Im suffering and and say your right.This went on for 10 min.Its so callous,and ridiculous.
Its funny if she was playing with some of these full tilt pros,such as Allen Cunningham or Mike Matisow,who are down 2-500k,would she have the balls to say that to them?

Just interesting,that i see this more and more,any insights on this?

Oddly enough, I never have people call out my stats at the table. But then again, even though my stats are pedestrian compared to the ballas, my stats own those who would normally call people out.

^ LOL gonna use this.

 

Originally Posted by ace1won

I usually jus say..Ive lost more money then youll ever win...it confuses them for a minute

LOL....I like that a lot! Going to start pulling that one out at the tables...

Seriously, people calling other people's DB out is pretty much the lamest thing possible in chat at the tables. It's far and away the worst consequence of all of the tracking sites that have emerged. A significant % of online poker players don't have the maturity to lose with grace.

I have it happen from time to time but I don't really care. I had one vicious downswing as a result of life tilt so my sharkscope stats suck as a result. I never claimed to be the best player in the world but I'm a winning player so fuck what anyone else says. Just have confidence in yourself, then what people say won't bother you. If that doesn't work, multitable to the point where you can't read anything people say.

Ive done this before, but I never am the first one to spout anything out. The stats and bad plays really dont mean anything other than more $$ for me. When I do bring up thedb is when after I get a 2 outed the guy who 2 outs me tells me I suck, or haha you suck, or haha FSU sucks go gators type of stuff. I recognize it as something I shouldnt do, but at the table I am really into the game and hate to lose, so when somebody says this after a suckout sometimes I go back at him...just part of the game imo...but if u cant take it, then dont dish it

Well i call peoples stats out but ONLY after they criticize my play in some way. I just like to say "thanks for the advice too bad i don't need advice from a losing player". Usually shuts them up pretty good.

lol some douche did this to me too... in a 90 man SNG on Tilt we were heads up and he says "glad to see you here" and im thinkin hmm what does that mean... then he says "you havent cashed in 7 straight SNG's and your finally here"... he said somethin like that, but I mean ive played like 50 Sng's on Tilt that I just found it hilarious... I eventually lose to him tho cuz he hit everything then look at his sharkscope and he has his stats disabled. Figures.

I will have a baller DB one day

It's always the same wanna be pros that are calling out stats..... the same wanna be pros that say "maybe you should read a book" ..... and the same wanna be pros that didnt learn the one basic principle "don't berate the fish" because these are the people that feed your wanna be pro dream. Just STFU and move on.

Got a DB story: Was railing final table on PS in midstake MTT tourney down to 4. The topic of making a deal came up. He's 2nd in chips but basically 3rd 2nd tied 1st wasn't huge lead. He tries to use DB as a point in negotiation and is like "I have more in one cash than this table combined, I'm likely as hell to win this over you fish, I want a grand more than what 2nd is paying or no deal" of course everyone is like thats not reasonable.....3 hands later he got 4th place.

Like a few others in this thread, I occassionally pull out the db stats in the chat. Usually in a situation where a consistently losing player is berating me and just goes on and on and on and on.

I usually do it in a way I think will embarrass him to some degree, usually starting with a loaded question or just something to get him to proclaim what a big winner he is.

A lot of times though someone else at the table will beat me to it, which, to be honest, is kinda nice. They tell him what a big loser he is and tell him that maybe he should take MY advice etc. etc.

I wouldn't suggest doing it to the casual poker player since it may cause them to quit. They type of guys I use it on are more or less compulsive gamblers who run a very small risk of leaving the game. But who also annoy the crap out of me with their endless berating.

I think the db is just another tool in our arsenal and whether you use it to quickly determine your edge over another player or to make an annoying railbird go away, is completely up to you.

Also, is it just me, or is it only losing players who don't want there db stats brought into the chat? I get a lot of people saying stuff like "hey, just looked up your stats, nice" and it has never once bothered me.

Its completly retarded 2 "diss" other players over their stats..First of all its rude and very lame in some ways ..PLUS its making the games tougher (nittier) and thats money lost for the smartass stats-stalker AND myself..especially in PLO-8 anyone playing funny hands in unusually ways is a gift for my ( and your) bankroll..so pleeease shut up! Tyvm and gl

I don't even care about the DB's, I find it funny when someone calls my stats out since they don't tell an accurate total picture.

I remember one time on stars last year I busted some clown when I called his preflop 3x in position with a drawing hand on deep stacks (specifically because I had observed he would play big pots with 1 pair hands). I flopped a wheel, raised his c-bet, he shoved with KK. He goes on and on about how awful I am and no wonder I lose money (lol, I've been a winning player, playing primarily cash games, for 9 years now). So he's lecturing me how I'll get broke calling with that trash, and even though I usually DO NOT educate the fish at the tables, I said "dude, I called 3x with that hand... I didn't put the other 97x in until I had the nuts". lol Then he starts telling me my sharkscope says I'm down $400-some dollars or something in SnG's, which I found really amusing since I don't play SnG's on Stars, I could count the number of them I'd played in the prior year on 1 hand. He insisted I was FOS etc so I when to sharkscope and looked myself up to see wtf he was talking about. Turned out he was right... sometime the prior year I wanted to work on my heads up Stud/8 game and I played a bunch of $50 and $100 HU stud/8 SnG's on Stars to that end. And I was down $400something from the effort LOL, no shit that's why I needed work on it.

So genius was looking at my results in a bunch of HU stud/8 sng's and deciding it meant I was a big NLHE full table donk. Awesome. loooool

 

Originally Posted by ira3801

I have for the most part been on a downswing.This is pretty much a hobby for me,but overall squeeze a big win here or there,to keep my bankroll.I have won or chopped 100r,nightly etc.
Furthermore last two months ive been suffering from vertigo,and basically,this is the only release i have to take my mind off this pain in the ass thing..And on top of all things im getting my ass handed to me...I know this!but a new trend is bluff a pot,or have the nuts,i get,Oh your a donk,your minus 21k this year..BIG FUCKIN DEAL.
I dont know who this douche of a lady who post here,named FabulousTexan.I played this am in a smaller buy in tourney,i flop a set,and get her out of pot,to get berated by a player whos total winnings for year,doesnt equal one of my wins.Im suffering and and say your right.This went on for 10 min.Its so callous,and ridiculous.
Its funny if she was playing with some of these full tilt pros,such as Allen Cunningham or Mike Matisow,who are down 2-500k,would she have the balls to say that to them?

Just interesting,that i see this more and more,any insights on this?

Hi Ira

I'm Fabulous Texan. BTW, my wife will vouch for the fact that I'm all man.

I agree, I could have handled the situation yesterday better. I apologize for my part in the situation escalating past where it should have.

I'm doing this off memory and not hand history, so forgive me if I don't have every detail exactly right.

You had taken a few beats for small pots earlier when people made pretty loose plays with marginal hands. You made some comments about their play and, while you didn't go overboard, you talked about them being rewarded despite making poor decisions.

I get TT in the CO.... there was a limp from early position, you raised 3x, and I doubled the pot because I didn't want to be in a multi-way with TT, even with position. Original limper calls and you call. Flop comes Txx, all clubs. I don't remember the actual sequence but we ended getting it all in. Sure enough it was my set against your flush. I don't improve and you take the pot.

You turned over QJs. I thought it was a loose play. I was frustrated that I flushed a set and it didn't hold. I was a little surprised that you'd play QJ like that, even suited. Right or wrong, at that moment I thought it was a loose play. Not horrible, but certainly loose.

Because I was frustrated and a little hot, I said something like, "You don't get to complain about other people playing loose and getting paid off, anymore."

At this point, I was willing to click the table off and go on with my life.

You proceed to justify your play and tell me to get a calculator, etc.

I was curious about who this was giving me this math lesson, so I looked you up on pokerdb.com. And I saw the number and I brought it into the discussion.

I thought it was hypocritical of you to complain about other people playing loose against you and hitting earlier.

I escalated it even though I shouldn't have and I apologize.

I like to think to both of our credits, the exchange never got vulgar or particularly crass. But to be clear, it was an exchange and not me just wailing on you in chat for 10 minutes.

May I suggest that if you're going to play that style, that you not complain when it doesn't go your way when other people make loose calls that hit?

And if you do want to make comments, not take it personal when you get called out when you do the exact same thing and it goes your way?

Hey, it happens sometimes. Later that day, I made a horrible read which resulted in a stupid play. I sucked out. The player I took down was frustrated and made some comments.

I responded by saying something like, "You're right. It was a horrible play by me and I got lucky." And that was the end of the exchange.

Again, Ira, I apologize for my part in escalating the exchange. If i was in front of you I'd offer to shake your hand.

I wish you the best of luck in moving forward.