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  1. supermoves supermoves is offline invented poker

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    May 4th, 2006 (5/4/2006 1:14pm)

    So, I was typing my response to a thread in the hand advice section called "If you were to give advice, What is the biggest mistake of the average player?". My response was I would tell them to pay attention. I started typing out all the things you must pay attention to and take into account and I realized what a HUGE list it was. Below is a list of everything I believe you must know and think about when making a decision while player poker.

    1. The blinds reletive to your stack

    2. The blinds relative to your opponants stack

    3. How many people are left

    4. Your position

    5. Your cards

    6. Opponants betting actions

    7. How close you are to the money

    8. When the blinds go up

    9. What is the average stack

    10. How to spell

    Please feel free to add on to this list...we will see if we can get a final list of everything you have to take into consideration when playing a NL holdem hand.
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  2. Zeropants Zeropants is offline

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    May 4th, 2006 (5/4/2006 1:19pm) in reply to supermoves

    How often your opponent folds to a raise.

    What hands your opponent has been taking to the showdown.

    How much you've raised pre and post flop in recent time. (do people think you're a bully)

    Can the short stack at your table wait for a good hand, or will the blinds take them out?

    What hands have you shown after winning, or shown down with?
  3. TroubleSuit TroubleSuit is offline

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    May 4th, 2006 (5/4/2006 1:20pm) in reply to supermoves

    11. Your opponents frame of mind at this time. Did they just take a horrible beat.

    12. Your opponents Image, loose player, tight player, passive agressive.

    13. Your table image. (regardless of if you have had a run of good cards, if you have raised 3 hands this orbit you look very loose agressive)

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  4. µ (x+t) µ (x+t) is offline

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    May 4th, 2006 (5/4/2006 2:22pm) in reply to TroubleSuit

    your sunglasses.
  5. jpb5013 jpb5013 is offline

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    May 4th, 2006 (5/4/2006 2:22pm) in reply to supermoves

    14. The fact that your opponents realize none of this
  6. Grip Grip is offline

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    May 4th, 2006 (5/4/2006 2:27pm) in reply to jpb5013

    15. If Jimmy's mom is making Stove Top for dinner or not
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  7. supermoves supermoves is offline invented poker

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    May 4th, 2006 (5/4/2006 3:33pm) in reply to jpb5013

    lol this one was my fave...lol
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  8. beauright beauright is offline

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    May 4th, 2006 (5/4/2006 3:43pm) in reply to supermoves

    This list is why I love my pokertracker! Takes too much energy to play on other sites, but on stars and party I can play with my coloring book and playdoh while I play!!! weeeeeeeeeeee

    beauright
  9. iLLNuGWichee iLLNuGWichee is offline

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    May 4th, 2006 (5/4/2006 4:10pm) in reply to supermoves

    your opponents table position
     
  10. WarCrimes WarCrimes is offline

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    May 4th, 2006 (5/4/2006 4:16pm) in reply to iLLNuGWichee

    #######111111111111111111111111111111111111111

    REASON POKER IS SO HARD IS....drum drum drum rollrollrollroll.

    THE GOD DAMN RAKE AND THATS IT IN A NUT SHELL FOLKS

    no contest case closed

    WarCrimes Out!
  11. dunnowins dunnowins is offline

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    May 5th, 2006 (5/5/2006 4:15pm) in reply to WarCrimes

    HOW BIG YOUR BALLS ARE IN RELATION TO THE OTHER PLAYERS
  12. Adam Adam is offline Emperor

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    May 5th, 2006 (5/5/2006 4:23pm) in reply to jpb5013

    So true, jpb. Very important to remember while you're thinking through a ton of things that most of your opponents aren't thinking about things the same way you are. If you can figure out how they ARE thinking things through (and usually there's more to it than we give them credit for), then you can really be a star.
     
  13. SexyAceJoker SexyAceJoker is offline

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    May 5th, 2006 (5/5/2006 4:53pm) in reply to dunnowins

    I think one of the biggest mistake is playing 1( or more than 1 table ) while doing other stuff and not concentrating. Players quad table, talk on their cells, read threw the internet, pet the dog, drink something. This just kills the concentration and level of play. If you get acostumed to this type of slackoff play, when you sit with the toughest players, they will get onto you like MJ gets into kids , so you need to stop doing everything and just pay attention to poker, wether its .1 cent games or 10000$ games
  14. AFink93 AFink93 is offline

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    May 5th, 2006 (5/5/2006 4:59pm) in reply to supermoves

    16. Having your Chat removed by Lee Jones.
  15. MadTiger MadTiger is offline

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    May 5th, 2006 (5/5/2006 6:39pm) in reply to Adam

    Oh, so true.

    Example:

    Normally, you would never min raise in NL Hold 'em.
    In micro-buy-in or freerolls, this is not a bad move.
    The fish/donk interpret it as a small bet, maybe a trap, maybe a bluff, etc.
    Min bet is the same as 2xBB to a donkey.
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