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would you call here with QQ or raise ? in sunday mil

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  1. kzammmm kzammmm is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:14pm)

    I only showing KK in 1 hr + 2 all in with no show downs . he was very active

    pokerstars Game #40828984295: Tournament #288020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2010/03/07 20:02:33 ET
    Table '288020010 563' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: mkmk (38122 in chips)
    Seat 2: CardZeus (63241 in chips)
    Seat 3: GrushKOO7 (41802 in chips)
    Seat 4: sanjefrio (90279 in chips)
    Seat 5: J0hnny_Dr@m@ (126100 in chips)
    Seat 6: SirCedric (45105 in chips)
    Seat 7: headorn (69631 in chips)
    Seat 8: El_Cańonero (84789 in chips)
    Seat 9: sachv (45348 in chips)
    mkmk: posts the ante 200
    CardZeus: posts the ante 200
    GrushKOO7: posts the ante 200
    sanjefrio: posts the ante 200
    J0hnny_Dr@m@: posts the ante 200
    SirCedric: posts the ante 200
    headorn: posts the ante 200
    El_Cańonero: posts the ante 200
    sachv: posts the ante 200
    GrushKOO7: posts small blind 1000
    sanjefrio: posts big blind 2000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mkmk [Qh Qc]
    J0hnny_Dr@m@: folds
    SirCedric: folds
    headorn: folds
    El_Cańonero: raises 2500 to 4500
    sachv: folds
    mkm :<--------------------- ? if you raise would you shove or raise to 10k ?
  2. bandit80 bandit80 is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:18pm) in reply to kzammmm

    Get it in super quick
     
  3. PhenomJeff PhenomJeff is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:21pm) in reply to bandit80

    raise to 14,420 call shove/jam flop
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:23pm) in reply to kzammmm

    I think at 19bbs your stack size is too small to 3bet, i would shove...
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:31pm) in reply to kzammmm

    Your at 20 BB's your going to want to find away to commit yourself to this hand IMO.

    I like your line on the 10k reraise...you'll be at 28k after and the pot is at 24k.

    If he checks to you....SHIP it......If he bets.....Ship it.

    Most of the time they aren't folding for 5,500 more.
     
  6. MakeMeMaster MakeMeMaster is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:33pm) in reply to Unbay2k4

    Just shove. 3-bet to like 10k is screaming a monster.
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  7. Unbay2k4 Unbay2k4 is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:37pm) in reply to MakeMeMaster

    But don't you think shipping it...you might lose his range?

    Think he'd call any PP 7-Js for set value and if it comes 246 it be hard to get away from it out of position.
     
  8. MakeMeMaster MakeMeMaster is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:40pm) in reply to Unbay2k4

     
    Originally Posted by Unbay2k4 View Post

    But don't you think shipping it...you might lose his range?

    Think he'd call any PP 7-Js for set value and if it comes 246 it be hard to get away from it out of position.

    Are you serious?
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  9. Unbay2k4 Unbay2k4 is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:42pm) in reply to MakeMeMaster

    Typo....I meant he'd call 7s-Js to reaccess the situation after the flop....thinking that he might be in a race. IDK. Guess it matter what kind of player he is...I've seen people calling the small reraise alot recently.
     
  10. PhenomJeff PhenomJeff is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:42pm) in reply to MakeMeMaster

     
    Originally Posted by MakeMeMaster View Post


    Are you serious?

    lol at calling a shove with "set value"
    plz be a joke
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:45pm) in reply to PhenomJeff

    It wasn't calling the shove for set value anyhow....it was calling 5,500 more
     
  12. PhenomJeff PhenomJeff is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:45pm) in reply to Unbay2k4

     
    Originally Posted by Unbay2k4 View Post

    Typo....I meant he'd call 7s-Js to reaccess the situation after the flop....thinking that he might be in a race. IDK. Guess it matter what kind of player he is...I've seen people calling the small reraise alot recently.

    theres nothing to reassess on the flop, if his opponent has 77-JJ he will make his decision pre, cause hero in this pot has 38k which isn't deep enough for any flop play.
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:48pm) in reply to PhenomJeff

     
    Originally Posted by PhenomJeff View Post

    theres nothing to reassess on the flop, if his opponent has 77-JJ he will make his decision pre, cause hero in this pot has 38k which isn't deep enough for any flop play.

    You speak as though the vast majority of players aren't idiots.

    Still shoving tho.

    edit: ...and for the love of god, plz don't flat.
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  14. Unbay2k4 Unbay2k4 is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:51pm) in reply to shanetrain22

    That's all I was saying. Matters on the Player. If he is a decent player I shove if he's been loose aggressive (as i think the guy said) I like the min reraise. also like the min. reraise if he's an idiot.
     
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:53pm) in reply to shanetrain22

     
    Originally Posted by shanetrain22 View Post

    You speak as though the vast majority of players aren't idiots.

    Still shoving tho.

    edit: ...and for the love of god, plz don't flat.

    In this case, its 215$ buyin, he said players been active, seems competent and opens 4500 at 1000/2000 which proves hes prob not an "idiot" but ya I see a shove getting a lot of folds if he has been active but not much else u can do
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:56pm) in reply to PhenomJeff

     
    Originally Posted by PhenomJeff View Post

    In this case, its 215$ buyin, he said players been active, seems competent and opens 4500 at 1000/2000 which proves hes prob not an "idiot" but ya I see a shove getting a lot of folds if he has been active but not much else u can do

    How do those 3 things prove that he's not an idiot?
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:58pm) in reply to PhenomJeff

    True. IDK let me know if I way off here...but don't you try to min. raise to rope him in?! Like I was saying he MIGHT call and MIGHT pay off a 234 type board with the 7-Js range?!
     
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 7:59pm) in reply to shanetrain22

     
    Originally Posted by shanetrain22 View Post

    How do those 3 things prove that he's not an idiot?

    idiot can mean a lot of things, id just say villain seems decent at poker from presented information

    shove tho
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:01pm) in reply to Unbay2k4

     
    Originally Posted by Unbay2k4 View Post


    True. IDK let me know if I way off here...but don't you try to min. raise to rope him in?! Like I was saying he MIGHT call and MIGHT pay off a 234 type board with the 7-Js range?!

    What if he has like 99 and flats the 3b and the flop comes AJ8 and he check/folds?
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  20. kzammmm kzammmm is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:05pm) in reply to kzammmm

    pokerstars Game #40828984295: Tournament #288020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2010/03/07 20:02:33 ET
    Table '288020010 563' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: mkmk (38122 in chips)
    Seat 2: CardZeus (63241 in chips)
    Seat 3: GrushKOO7 (41802 in chips)
    Seat 4: sanjefrio (90279 in chips)
    Seat 5: J0hnny_Dr@m@ (126100 in chips)
    Seat 6: SirCedric (45105 in chips)
    Seat 7: headorn (69631 in chips)
    Seat 8: El_Cańonero (84789 in chips)
    Seat 9: sachv (45348 in chips)

    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mkmk [Qh Qc]
    J0hnny_Dr@m@: folds
    SirCedric: folds
    headorn: folds
    El_Cańonero: raises 2500 to 4500
    sachv: folds
    mkmk: raises 4500 to 9000 <--- I wanted to keep him in :)
    CardZeus: folds
    GrushKOO7: folds
    sanjefrio: folds
    El_Cańonero: raises 75589 to 84589 and is all-in <---------- I was planing on calling and I did ... just not sure if I should shoved 1st if he would fold :(
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:06pm) in reply to PhenomJeff

     
    Originally Posted by PhenomJeff View Post

    idiot can mean a lot of things, id just say villain seems decent at poker from presented information

    shove tho

    It's good that you're trying to gather info... I'm just saying that I see very little logic in using the info you mentioned before to label him as decent/competent.
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:07pm) in reply to kzammmm

     
    Originally Posted by kzammmm View Post

    pokerstars Game #40828984295: Tournament #288020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2010/03/07 20:02:33 ET
    Table '288020010 563' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: mkmk (38122 in chips)
    Seat 2: CardZeus (63241 in chips)
    Seat 3: GrushKOO7 (41802 in chips)
    Seat 4: sanjefrio (90279 in chips)
    Seat 5: J0hnny_Dr@m@ (126100 in chips)
    Seat 6: SirCedric (45105 in chips)
    Seat 7: headorn (69631 in chips)
    Seat 8: El_Cańonero (84789 in chips)
    Seat 9: sachv (45348 in chips)

    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mkmk [Qh Qc]
    J0hnny_Dr@m@: folds
    SirCedric: folds
    headorn: folds
    El_Cańonero: raises 2500 to 4500
    sachv: folds
    mkmk: raises 4500 to 9000 <--- I wanted to keep him in :)
    CardZeus: folds
    GrushKOO7: folds
    sanjefrio: folds
    El_Cańonero: raises 75589 to 84589 and is all-in <---------- I was planing on calling and I did ... just not sure if I should shoved 1st if he would fold :(

    i'm confused, what's the problem?
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  23. MakeMeMaster MakeMeMaster is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:10pm) in reply to shanetrain22

    This thread is pretty retarded.
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  24. kzammmm kzammmm is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:10pm) in reply to shanetrain22

    i'm confused, what's the problem?

    nothing I was trying to see if I should shoved , raised or just call ....
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:11pm) in reply to kzammmm

    I know results dont matter but what happpened?!
     
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:15pm) in reply to MakeMeMaster

     
    Originally Posted by MakeMeMaster View Post

    This thread is pretty retarded.

    having a hard time disagreeing with this
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:33pm) in reply to kzammmm

    plz tell me u didnt fold to his shove
     
  28. PhenomJeff PhenomJeff is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:39pm) in reply to nollidK

    lol
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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:41pm) in reply to nollidK

    Think thats what happened after reading what he wrote again
     
  30. kzammmm kzammmm is offline

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    Mar 7th, 2010 (3/7/2010 8:41pm) in reply to shanetrain22

     
    Originally Posted by shanetrain22 View Post


    having a hard time disagreeing with this

    Sorry I really just wanted to know if I should shoved / called or raised to 10k or even 12k .. not sure why this make it retarded ?
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