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Just Wow. Has anyone else been watching this HU match and the deal?
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Iplaythabored
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Lost ALOT of respect here's the chat.
pokerstars Game #27794279397: Tournament #158090795, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIX (30000/60000) - 2009/05/03 21:51:54 ET
Table '158090795 121' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Mogilni (4829538 in chips)
Seat 7: Wretchy (1511462 in chips)
Mogilni: posts the ante 6000
Wretchy: posts the ante 6000
Wretchy: posts small blind 30000
Mogilni: posts big blind 60000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Wretchy said, "gimmie the 59 and we'll call it good"
Mogilni said, "i tell u 59, and u let me win, i want the title"
Wretchy said, "they chio"
Wretchy said, "fir ys"
Wretchy said, "suport uhere"
Wretchy: calls 30000
Mogilni: checks
*** FLOP *** [As 4c 2h]
Mogilni: checks
Wretchy said, "ok mog, i'll take 59"
Wretchy: bets 75000
Mogilni: folds
Uncalled bet (75000) returned to Wretchy
Mogilni said, "ok"
Wretchy collected 132000 from pot
Wretchy: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 132000 | Rake 0
Board [As 4c 2h]
Seat 1: Mogilni (big blind) folded on the Flop
If that is not a deal i don't know what is. After this was said the other guy is nice but pretty clueless how chops work so they keep playing. Once support gets to the table he doubled up like twice and was CL then said there was no deal. -
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if it woulda went the other way around and wretchy doubled the other guy twice and was the short stack... would the shorty keep that deal or want more money??? its not a D-bag move at all... support wasnt there yet so they couldnt make an official deal... wretchy obv pwns
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I wonder what sheets thinks about this
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Wretchy
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Originally Posted by I_Blade_U
if it woulda went the other way around and wretchy doubled the other guy twice and was the short stack... would the shorty keep that deal or want more money??? its not a D-bag move at all... support wasnt there yet so they couldnt make an official deal... wretchy obv pwns
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ZeeDustin
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Did the guy ship wretchy his 6K? If not...pretty awful move.
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lol for anyone sticking up for him get a clue. Do you realize that alot of times in Multi's and Sng's when a deal is made in the chat stars support honors that deal even when the'ye not their. They agreed to the deal, the other guy wasn't familiar with how stars chops worked and he kept asking questions but recieved no answer from wretchy other then, "yes i emailed support". It's sad that money means sooo much to people to pull stunts like this.
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Wretchy
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If the guy doesn't understand the chop, then Wretchy is freerolling basically by agreeing to deal and then playing, anyone else not get this? I sure hope the other guy kept it all.
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A deal is a fucking deal, he says I will take 59 and the other guys says ok...it's an official deal. pretty weak man
edit: so no one sat out after the talk and the guy said ok? I am confused now -
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Then why even ask or agree to a deal then?Originally Posted by Wretchy
I'm not going to trust some noob who I don't know to ship me the money, I emailed support and waited for them. When they came I was ahead and no chop, he won so why are you worried about it now?
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its called an angleshotOriginally Posted by AFink93
Then why even ask or agree to a deal then?Originally Posted by Wretchy
I'm not going to trust some noob who I don't know to ship me the money, I emailed support and waited for them. When they came I was ahead and no chop, he won so why are you worried about it now?
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Waited for them? If waiting is playing tons of HU hands then yes you did wait. The guy thought their was a deal and kept asking over and over what can we do. Also, the outcome means nothing to me, it's the fact that you guys agreed on a deal and you went back on your word because your greedy.Originally Posted by Wretchy
I'm not going to trust some noob who I don't know to ship me the money, I emailed support and waited for them. When they came I was ahead and no chop, he won so why are you worried about it now?
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lol. if you agreed to 59k why didn't you just explain to him "hey bro sitout with me till support gets here so we can chop"
the way you did it kind of seems like an angle shoot/shady, i don't know what happened besides what this thread stated, not saying you are right or wrong either, just my opinion, gratz on the score. -
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Karma sure is a bitch!
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I would give the man the benefit of the doubt... Not like it was his 1st rodeo. Deal making time is not the time to make friends.. its strictly business.. good score wretchy
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prob because if wretcy loses money before support gets there he says the deal should stand but....if he makes money....he says no deal....pretty sweet free roll as others have pointed out....
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lol, i guess you struggle reading hand histories. did you see the part where wrethcy made an offer and the other dude accepted his offer? that is usually a "deal." that is how business is transacted.Originally Posted by herbstreet24
Deal making time is not the time to make friends.. its strictly business..
i guess you meant to sayOriginally Posted by herbstreet24
Deal breaking time is not the time to make friends.. its strictly business..
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Sit out next time Wretchy and wait for support, you know what ur doing.
Pure shady and don't agree to it next time in the chatbox.. -
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Unless support is there to verify the deal than it is not really a deal imo. Pretty funny post tho.Originally Posted by phish42O
lol, i guess you struggle reading hand histories. did you see the part where wrethcy made an offer and the other dude accepted his offer? that is usually a "deal." that is how business is transacted.Originally Posted by herbstreet24
Deal making time is not the time to make friends.. its strictly business..
i guess you meant to sayOriginally Posted by herbstreet24
Deal breaking time is not the time to make friends.. its strictly business..
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lol at this, just lolOriginally Posted by herbstreet24
I would give the man the benefit of the doubt... Not like it was his 1st rodeo. Deal making time is not the time to make friends.. its strictly business.. good score wretchy
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Whatever happened to integrity and honor? If you say there is a deal then there is. Just because there is a way to exploit it doesnt make it ok and all support does is enforce the deal which people come up with they dont validate it.Originally Posted by herbstreet24
Unless support is there to verify the deal than it is not really a deal imo. Pretty funny post tho.
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