300th!

the lack of reading comprehension in PD, judging from the responses

sure, wretchy said he played as whatslogic but never played as both himself and whatslogic in the same tourny, and he says pstars agreed with that. could he be lying and making it all up? I guess.

so far I've seen about 8 posts where people say he played as whatslogic while his gf played as wretchy. not sure where they got this info. I'd love to know more, but it seems the accusations are flying much faster than any sort of documentation or facts. I've also seen many people go apeshit because wretchy "played both accounts in the same tournaments". again, no documentation or facts. could they be right? sure, but that's not what the op, and, as the op states, stars says.

it's like if wretchy said he went to the store and stole a loaf of bread, got caught, and was banned from the store for three months, and then 56 people started yelling about him stealing bread, pissing in aisle three and smacking tha bagboy on the way out. it could be true, I'd just like to see some proof of their allegations

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh. is it?

of all people...
such <STRIKE>ironing</STRIKE> (opps misspelled) irony

 

Originally Posted by norcaljeff

sure, wretchy said he played as whatslogic but never played as both himself and whatslogic in the same tourny, and he says pstars agreed with that. could he be lying and making it all up? I guess.

so far I've seen about 8 posts where people say he played as whatslogic while his gf played as wretchy. not sure where they got this info. I'd love to know more, but it seems the accusations are flying much faster than any sort of documentation or facts. I've also seen many people go apeshit because wretchy "played both accounts in the same tournaments". again, no documentation or facts. could they be right? sure, but that's not what the op, and, as the op states, stars says.

it's like if wretchy said he went to the store and stole a loaf of bread, got caught, and was banned from the store for three months, and then 56 people started yelling about him stealing bread, pissing in aisle three and smacking tha bagboy on the way out. it could be true, I'd just like to see some proof of their allegations

You sir are an idiot gtfo, he is a cheating scumbag pos, with at least 3 accounts and prob alot more...........maybe you need a reading comprehension class

gifagfyiamfgf? he has what now? oh tell me more about his "probable" accounts? moran
motismIV has 16 accounts! you heard it here first! prove me wrong! he probably beats old ladies for their rent checks too! omg!

 

Originally Posted by norcaljeff

sure, wretchy said he played as whatslogic but never played as both himself and whatslogic in the same tourny, and he says pstars agreed with that. could he be lying and making it all up? I guess.

so far I've seen about 8 posts where people say he played as whatslogic while his gf played as wretchy. not sure where they got this info. I'd love to know more, but it seems the accusations are flying much faster than any sort of documentation or facts. I've also seen many people go apeshit because wretchy "played both accounts in the same tournaments". again, no documentation or facts. could they be right? sure, but that's not what the op, and, as the op states, stars says.

it's like if wretchy said he went to the store and stole a loaf of bread, got caught, and was banned from the store for three months, and then 56 people started yelling about him stealing bread, pissing in aisle three and smacking tha bagboy on the way out. it could be true, I'd just like to see some proof of their allegations

I'd take this post more seriously if norcaljeff had ever posted a single rational thought in his career on p5s.

sharp fails again. news at always. sigh

I think him saying the following is is enough evidence to me that he was playing the hand:

 

Originally Posted by Wretchy

I figure if hes got a draw on the turn hes shoving or raising, hes hoping his pair is good on the river on a huge bluff because he was spewing chips like crazy. GG HIM"

It may not be enough evidence for FTP to permaban him and confiscate hundreds of thousands of dollars, but I know what I think about the situation. And I know what any reasonable person would think about the situation. You saying that he's not a cheater because "stars says he didn't MA" is like saying OJ Simpson is not guilty of murder b/c he was acquitted during his trial.

 

Originally Posted by norcaljeff

that is pretty bad tho, and I'd like to see if he has an answer for it

he won't answer, guaranteed.

 

Originally Posted by norcaljeff

sharp fails again. news at always. sigh

Great comeback.

Call me crazy but I'd call 17,000 posts in less than two years on an internet forum "failing at life."

tell me more about my posting on the site you post on. supreme ironing

 

Originally Posted by norcaljeff

and oj was acquitted. doesn't mean he didn't do it.

and just b/c stars couldn't find sufficient evidence to permaban him doesn't mean he didn't multiaccount.

 

Originally Posted by MUPokerPlayer

 

Originally Posted by MUPokerPlayer

Wretchy, what about the tourneys where there were rail calls for you where you were playing as "WhatsLogic" and the username "Wretchy" was also in? Your girlfriend was playing the "Wretchy" account during those times? But all other times you played as Wretchy and she played as WhatsLogic?

Wretchy, if you insist that this saga is over, please explain this situation and what was going on here. Otherwise you still have no credibility.

Wow 3 names Now .. I mean WTF .. seriously .. Who am i playing when i am Playing MTTs.. LOL .. you mother fuckers have more personality's "Accounts" then a Fucking Sports team.. fucking man up and play like the rest of us .. For crying out fucking loud You RE RE FUCK TARD

it's not about whether he juiced, it's about no one ever proving it. he got screwed by mlb. and the hacks that wrote the boof used sealed, stolen grand jury testimony. it's an affront to fairness.
and even if he did use it was because he looked around and saw everyone using and surpassing him, and he was the greatest clean player in baseball. mlb refused to do anything about the obviously rampant use so why should he get shafted for staying clean? the roid scandal isa 99% the fault of mlb, the mlbpa, the fans and the journalists. no one cared, that's why no one did anything about it. now all of a sudden everyone is shocked, just shocked, to find out roids were everywhere. such bullshitaments. they should save the self-righteous hypocrisy imo

Who would be at fault for the other 1%. Seems like you included everyone involved in your 99%?

- the cheaters

It also SEEMS (correct me if im reading it wrong) to me like you feel its OK to cheat if those around you cheat since they are surpassing you.

- no, but the decision to cheat would be more understandable. if you were in a class and everyone around you was cheating, and the teacher knew but didn't care, and anyone that said "Hey people are cheating" was ignored, and your grade would suffer as a result of their cheating and the teacher not caring, then I think it is more understandable. does it make it right? no.

By extension, Wretchy can win you over by saying he cheated because "everyone was doing it" and he would lose equity if he didnt jump in the cesspool with the rest of the cheating thieves.

- he wouldbe wrong to do so. but the sites would be more to blame if they knew about this problem and did nothing

I would rather see online poker players go the route of Murderer and others who realize that outing these clowns is the ONLY way to ultimately create a level playing field.

- sounds good. the more cheaters busted the more pressure on the sites to ensure a level playing field

The game of poker has inherent in its nature the idea that you use all means neccesary to take someone else's money. Why are we shocked when kids who can't even buy cigarettes or alcohol legally blur this fine line and start doing things that are actually STEALING from fellow players.

- all means necessary? I would say that dealing off the bottom of the deck or having 5 cheaters v. 1 noob at a table with them working together isn't poker at all, it's just cheating. that's like saying you do anything you can to succeed in life, so it's ok to rob someone.

The only way we can clean up this game is if EVERYONE bands together and outs all of these thieves until its not worth the risk to cheat anymore.

- yup

As long as this is even SLIGHTLY defended by the peers of these guys, it will continue.

- I haven't seen anyone defending cheating