Originally Posted by jtj03

Wretchy, keep your head up, fuck the haters and let them think what they want, as a backer I require my horses to have a seperate account for cash games and tournies, I can attest to this. You have been a solid a respected player and not one of your big scores came from getting an unfair advantage. I have learned a lot from your posts and railing you, good luck when you come back Ill be pulling for you.

At least this guy has your back!

After all of this you still aren't big enough to apologize, wow that says a lot

 

Originally Posted by jtj03

I require my horses to have a seperate account for cash games and tournies,

Just to clarify, are you suggesting that in order to be backed by you, players must engage in behavior that violates the TOS of the major poker sites?

Glad it all got cleared up.
I look forward to future rails.
GL 2 you!

I usually don't ever get involved in this shit, but the fact you're acting like somebody did something indignant to you is hilarious. You were playing on two accounts. It's against the rules. Period. That is always going to anger someone.

Do Sheets and Bax even allow their horses to play cash games? I've been told multiple times if I had ever joined that camp they would've been pissed about how often I was playing cash.

Whether you like it or not the fact remains Whatslogic was in another name, and if I or a 100 other regs had sat down with you at a cash game table you would know my tendencies over so many hands and unless I just happened to find the HH you posted with Whatslogic, and didn't assume you were posting a friend's HH because you can't have two accounts, I wouldn't know it was you. If I'm 12 tabling like I'm often doing I'd never have the time to google that name or DB or anything, but you'd know so much more about me.

That's bullshit, and I don't care that "everyone" does it. I never made secondary accounts when I was backed, and I know a lot of people that never did it.

I'd really be interested to see these hand histories that are so different. How many girls really are playing this many tournaments? How do so many MTTers find these girlfriends that want to open accounts and start grinding tournaments with them randomly?

gutshtallins gf is prob the sickest female player in the world

 

Originally Posted by I_Blade_U

gutshtallins gf is prob the sickest female player in the world

QFT

 

Originally Posted by Flushy

 

Originally Posted by Wretchy

 

Originally Posted by B_O_K_E

I agree that the punishment probably fits the crime. As far as Wretchy goes, I dont really understand why you cant swallow some pride and just apologize intead of pointing fingers and trying to justify it.
"but I do not know a pro that’s backed that doesn't have a separate name for cash games, but it's still against the TOS."

....this comment shows a lot about your character.

I don't understand what I need to apologize for. I feel that having a cash game account is sorta the same thing as smoking weed. Everyone knows that it's illegal and yet its a common thing.

I admit that I was wrong and shouldn't have played under the account, that's about as much as you'll get from me as far as an apology. I'm dealing with the punishment and that's all that's going to happen.

Smoking weed doesn't give you an unfair edge over the other players though.

I don't care if you apologise or not, i kinda expect most poker players to be pretty shit people anyway.

FWIW though the sites have handed down their punishment and once you have done your time i think this issue should be laid to rest.

Thank god they didn't ban you though, how are the rest of the regs supposed to eat if you don't play!

It does for lilholdem

 

Originally Posted by Wretchy

 

Originally Posted by B_O_K_E

I agree that the punishment probably fits the crime. As far as Wretchy goes, I dont really understand why you cant swallow some pride and just apologize intead of pointing fingers and trying to justify it.
"but I do not know a pro that’s backed that doesn't have a separate name for cash games, but it's still against the TOS."

....this comment shows a lot about your character.

I don't understand what I need to apologize for. I feel that having a cash game account is sorta the same thing as smoking weed. Everyone knows that it's illegal and yet its a common thing.

I admit that I was wrong and shouldn't have played under the account, that's about as much as you'll get from me as far as an apology. I'm dealing with the punishment and that's all that's going to happen.

My point is this, the people are looking for an apology and thats it really. Not a post that was delivered in this matter. I can careless either way fwiw, im just saying to swallow pride and apologize and give people what they want, and than everyone wont be on your back (unless you like drama and conflict). Its sorta like women...you got to just tell them what they want to hear sometimes to make your life easier. Ya heard.

 

Originally Posted by B_O_K_E

 

Originally Posted by Wretchy

 

Originally Posted by B_O_K_E

I agree that the punishment probably fits the crime. As far as Wretchy goes, I dont really understand why you cant swallow some pride and just apologize intead of pointing fingers and trying to justify it.
"but I do not know a pro that’s backed that doesn't have a separate name for cash games, but it's still against the TOS."

....this comment shows a lot about your character.

I don't understand what I need to apologize for. I feel that having a cash game account is sorta the same thing as smoking weed. Everyone knows that it's illegal and yet its a common thing.

I admit that I was wrong and shouldn't have played under the account, that's about as much as you'll get from me as far as an apology. I'm dealing with the punishment and that's all that's going to happen.

My point is this, the people are looking for an apology and thats it really. Not a post that was delivered in this matter. I can careless either way fwiw, im just saying to swallow pride and apologize and give people what they want, and than everyone wont be on your back (unless you like drama and conflict). Its sorta like women...you got to just tell them what they want to hear sometimes to make your life easier. Ya heard.

Well said. And point taken.

 

Originally Posted by fallaway

I'm still a bit confused.

I thought it was established that Whatslogic played in tournies where wretchy admitted it was him playing there. i.e. through posting his hand histories etc...

I also was made to believe that Wretchy was in the same tournaments.

Is the story that his girlfriend played under Wretchy while he was Whatslogic or am I misunderstanding that other massive thread?

Nope you weren't mistaken, this is what the other thread was about.

 

Originally Posted by overdose

 

Originally Posted by Wretchy

 

Originally Posted by B_O_K_E

I agree that the punishment probably fits the crime. As far as Wretchy goes, I dont really understand why you cant swallow some pride and just apologize intead of pointing fingers and trying to justify it.
"but I do not know a pro that’s backed that doesn't have a separate name for cash games, but it's still against the TOS."

....this comment shows a lot about your character.

I don't understand what I need to apologize for. I feel that having a cash game account is sorta the same thing as smoking weed. Everyone knows that it's illegal and yet its a common thing.

I admit that I was wrong and shouldn't have played under the account, that's about as much as you'll get from me as far as an apology. I'm dealing with the punishment and that's all that's going to happen.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLl. Are you serious? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. That is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard. Wretchy,you truly are a piece of sh1t.

coming from a guy whos name is overdose

 

Originally Posted by Flushy

Smoking weed doesn't give you an unfair edge over the other players though.

o rly

I don't know Wretchy personally, so I will withhold any comments about character, morals, etc...

As for the apology, it wouldn't have mattered if he made one or not as it was pretty obv thru the previous posts that he wasn't sorry about anything...so him apologizing is like someone telling a girl that they love her just to get her into bed... its super shady, doesn't mean anything and it would just end up upsetting people.

As for multiple accounts, people sharing hole cards and soliciting advice during games, cheating, and all that other shit, i really wish that these sites would burn everyone to the stake. Take all your money, ban your accounts, and send warning emails to anyone ever associated with them to not help them get back on those sites or they will be suspended too.

I am so tired of grinding away every phukin day playing on the same account I created on day 1 before i knew you were supposed to chose a cool clever sn trying to chase the dream only to read every week about guys who have stolen equity or broke terms of service be allowed to continue to prosper.

I wish the sites would take such a hard stance against players including tying them up in expensive litigation even if they had no chance at winning, just so the opponent would have to spend some of his winnings trying to defend himself. I wish they would create a website that listed all cheaters, what they did, under what screennames, any current / open investigatoins and the results, and make the whole process open and transparent instead of it being behind closed doors like it is today.

shyt...hypothetically speaking, fulltilt and stars could have said to wretchy "look..we know you phuking cheated your azz off, but we are just short of the evidence necessary to burn your azz"..meanwhile wretchy can come on here and post his version, and there is no way to fact check it.

I have busted my azz trying to be one of the top mtt players, yet week in and week out, it seems the real ticket to success is not to put in hours of studying, playing, and dedication....rather its walking a bunch of fine lines and grey areas, and sometimes just biatch smacking the fine line in her face to get ahead. Then, trying to justify it cuz a bunch of other shady characters also do it....

Girlfriends, Grandma's, and shared houses full of 5-6 people in the same tournament who swear up and down that they don't soft play or chip dump or share hole cards...when will this shyt end???

At least i know when i bust thru, no one can take my money or my respect away from me...i hope that continues to be enough for me as more and more people get exposed for taking additional advantages in the game not granted them because they obv don't feel their edge in the game itself is great enough. all this shyt really just ends up hurting the community as a whole in our pursuit to have the online game regulated and legalized, so they we can respectfully call this a profession. I'm just so tired of this shyt...doesn't anyone outplay their opponent anymore? enuff said.

JD

 

Originally Posted by iatetheredcrayon

and the randoms come out of he woodwork to grow their e-penii...

gl with it wretchy.

lol wretchy rolls ftw