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A very bizarre situation just took place at a table in the Brasilia room. Someone at an adjacent table dropped a yellow 1K chip on the floor and it rolled underneath Table 241, which features P5ers Dan “Whatslogic” Martin (pictured at right) and Matt “dippydough” DiPaoli. The player in Seat 3 stealthily picked up the chip and added it to his stack. Moments later, the same player doubled up and made everyone aware that he had found the chip and offered it back to the player that had originally lost it.
This didn’t go over well with the rest of the Table 241. Tournament Director Jack Effel was called over, as well as two floor managers, and they discussed what course of action should be taken. Effel came to the decision that since the hand was over nothing could be done and Seat 3 would keep his current stack (minus the original 1K chip, which was returned to the other table).
A few hands later, Martin raised from early position and the player who had just doubled up moved all in again. Action folded to Martin, who needed less than 2K to call and did so, turning over A-8. His opponent slowly rolled over A
K
, and flopped two pair on an A-K-2 board. Dan was drawing dead when a 6 turned, and a meaningless Q fell on the river.
After the hand, a floorman approached the table and a new verdict had been reached. The player in Seat 3 was forced to give a 1K chip to the first player who doubled him up. As soon as the floor left, the player in Seat 2 turned to Martin and suggested that he deserved a 1K chip as well. The floor was called again, and the entire table was in favor of Martin. “You should do both or neither,” said the player in Seat 2. After brief deliberation, Martin was also rewarded with a 1K chip.
No punishment was given to Seat 3. He later apologized to everyone at the table.
Once a cheater, always a cheater
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L0bstaM0bsta
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BURN HIM!
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Maybe it's just me but that was really hard to follow, at least on the first read.
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How is it that this is cheating?
From the reporting Wretchy did not speak out that he should have a 1k chip.
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ya, confusing article, its making it sound as if wretchy did no wrongfOriginally Posted by Skitz0Frenik
Maybe it's just me but that was really hard to follow, at least on the first read.
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I'm confused.....according to the reporting wretchy didnt do anything?
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Sorry for any confusion, but it was a very very weird situation. We're shocked the guy in seat 3 didn't get a penalty...and Dan didn't do anything wrong. He doubled up the guy who had an unfairly inflated stack and was properly refunded.Originally Posted by Skitz0Frenik
Maybe it's just me but that was really hard to follow, at least on the first read.
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lol @ dan "whatslogic" martin....why not dan wretchy martin?
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o and hows it cheating?
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Cause he was the guy at the adjacent table! How is that so hard to figure out?
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How exactly is he "striking again"? lol
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this is a terrible thread
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can someone with better reading comprehension than me, put it into bullet points pls?
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Charder, this thread title is inappropriate. Your attempt at humor will be lost on a good portion of the posters and you should know that already. Shame on this brutal attempt at humor turned wrong.
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is this some kind of riddle or something
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shouldn't wretchy be given 2k back? say the guy had 10k before the 1k he found, so he doubled to 22k instead of 20k, so wretchy had to pay 22k instead of 20k.
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seems real
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Wretchy isn't cheating here, but I'm scratching my head as to why he deserves a 1k chip.
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nah, the guy should have shipped 10k but shipped 11k. so wretchy had to call 11k instead of 10k, thus only overpaid 1k.Originally Posted by hutch3276
shouldn't wretchy be given 2k back? say the guy had 10k before the 1k he found, so he doubled to 22k instead of 20k, so wretchy had to pay 22k instead of 20k.
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he covered 1k worth of an all in by the other guy that he shouldn't have had to
thread title blows btw -
1.) Charder is being humorous and created the PD post title and also changed wretchy to whatslogic. If you got it, it was funny - if you didn't it was just confusing.
2.) Here is the link to the actual post - P5sLive Post
3.) It is a convoluted situation, and very hard to put in words, especially without having names for everyone involved. I may edit the post slightly for clarity, but it is just something that you have to read twice or more to understand.
4.) Dan did nothing wrong, just happened to be involved in one of the weird situations that sometimes occur in live poker.
5.) As far as I know the P5sLive crew are the only people that reported this - props to them for that. -
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maybe if ppl would learn to turn up their sarcasm meters then the sarcasm police wouldnt have to waste his time posting hereOriginally Posted by Court
1.) Charder is being humorous and created the PD post title and also changed wretchy to whatslogic. If you got it, it was funny - if you didn't it was just confusing.
2.) Here is the link to the actual post - P5sLive Post
3.) It is a convoluted situation, and very hard to put in words, especially without having names for everyone involved. I may edit the post slightly for clarity, but it is just something that you have to read twice or more to understand.
4.) Dan did nothing wrong, just happened to be involved in one of the weird situations that sometimes occur in live poker.
5.) As far as I know the P5sLive crew are the only people that reported this - props to them for that.
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