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I'm sure most of you will be out there in the next couple months for some events. What events do you plan on playing and where?
I will be out there from June 18th-21st. I will most likely be playing the Caesars Deepstack b/c the buy in is what I am comfortable with. Does anyone know if it is their first year running this tournament or their second year?
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This is the first year for the Caear's deepstack. I'm playing events 2 and/or 3 of the WSOP. --J
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There was a good post on 2+2 comparing the events (I copied and pasted the post below):
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=192382
There are going to be many 2p2 members in Vegas this summer looking for tournaments. I wanted to give a rundown of what's going to be the best bet and I did comparisons based strictly on the structure of the events.
There are four mid priced series going on during the summer, but the structure for the Bellagio Cup III is impossible to find, so I will compare the other three series:
World Series of Poker $1500
Venetian Deepstack $1060
Venetian Deepstack $540
Caesar's Megastack $540
First off, I would like to note that the Venetian has auto shufflers, so you should be getting in more hands on those events. This increases their value, but I am not directly taking it into account.
Starting Chips
WSOP $1500 - 3,000
Deepstack $1060 - 10,000
Deepstack $540 - 10,000
Megastack $540 - 15,000
You get less starting chips with the WSOP, so you won't be starting out deepstacked.
BB vs Starting stack
Starting level
WSOP $1500 - 60
Deepstack $1060 - 200
Deepstack $540 - 200
Megastack $540 - 300
Again the WSOP does not offer deep stacked play. The Megastack starts incredibly deepstacked.
Four hours in
WSOP $1500 - 15
Deepstack $1060 - 50
Deepstack $540 - 16.66
Megastack $540 - 25
The $1060 remains deep, while the remaining tournaments start dropping.
Eight hours in
WSOP $1500 - 3.75
Deepstack $1060 - 8.33
Deepstack $540 - 2.5
Megastack $540 - 5
The WSOP $1500 is now actually deeper then the $540 Deepstack and is gaining on the other events. The $1060 Deepstack is looking to have great value.
Twelve hours in
WSOP $1500 - 1.5
Deepstack $1060 - 2.5
Deepstack $540 - .33
Megastack $540 - 1.25
The $540 events are showing the disadvantages of faster levels. They have swung from very deep to very very shallow.
Fifteen hours in
WSOP $1500 - .500
Deepstack $1060 - .833
Deepstack $540 - .0625
Megastack $540 - .375
The $540s should be over, or close to over at this point.
Overall
I think I wanted to highlight in this thread what I believe the strength of longer blind levels as opposed to just giving you more chips. The Megastack started the deepest event, but by the end of the tournament it became one of the shortest structures. The first level of this series is going to be like torture playing 300bbs deep with no antes.
The WSOP actually redeems itself once the money is reached. Day 2 of the $1500 events will be must more pleasant because of this, and actually allow some good play at this point. This is at the cost of less play during the first 8 levels.
The $1060 Deepstacks overall have the best structure as shown. The Venetian is really giving players a good tournament here. -
I am going out May 30th, was considering some wsop events such as $1500 ($1365 +$135) event #2. The bad: 4 day tourney, enormously long days, Harrah's greed with ever increasing rake, tiny 3000 chip stack, forced to gamble wildly if no hands early. The good: wsop excitement, huge payday if final table. Then started considering other options: Venetian or Caesars deepstack events: example: $1060 deepstack venetian The good: 10,000 starting chips, awesome slow structure, less of a madhouse, the bad: less prestige to win, smaller paydays. To me this is a no brainer, caesars, venetian or Bellagio cup, might play 1 or 2 bigger buyin wsop events.
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anyone have a link to the caesers tourney structure?
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Cmitch...thanks for that post...very helpful, as I never make my way over to 2+2
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s1nnr, I dont have the structure for it, but I do have the events.
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="7"><tr><td colspan="13">Caesars Palace
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="13">Mega Stack Series
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="13">June 1st- July- 9th,
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">
Date
</td><td colspan="3">
Buy-in
</td><td colspan="3">
Event
</td><td colspan="3">
Starting Chips
</td><td colspan="2">
Add-On/Staff Bonus
</td></tr><tr><td>Sun
</td><td colspan="3">6/1/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$500 + $40
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">12,500
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Mon
</td><td colspan="3">6/2/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Tues
</td><td colspan="3">6/3/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Tues
</td><td colspan="3">6/3/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">Seniors No Limit / 50 + / 3PM
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Wed
</td><td colspan="3">6/4/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Thurs
</td><td colspan="3">6/5/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Frid
</td><td colspan="3">6/6/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Sat
</td><td colspan="3">6/7/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Sun
</td><td colspan="3">6/8/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$500 + $40
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">12,500
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Mon
</td><td colspan="3">6/9/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Tues
</td><td colspan="3">6/10/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Tues
</td><td colspan="3">6/10/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">Omaha 8 or Better / 3:00 PM
</td><td colspan="3">2,500
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Wed
</td><td colspan="3">6/11/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Thurs
</td><td colspan="3">6/12/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Frid
</td><td colspan="3">6/13/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Sat
</td><td colspan="3">6/14/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Sun
</td><td colspan="3">6/15/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$500 + $40
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">12,500
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Mon
</td><td colspan="3">6/16/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Tues
</td><td colspan="3">6/17/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Tues
</td><td colspan="3">6/17/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">P.L.O. / 3:00 PM
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Wed
</td><td colspan="3">6/18/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Thurs
</td><td colspan="3">6/19/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Frid
</td><td colspan="3">6/20/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Sat
</td><td colspan="3">6/21/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Sun
</td><td colspan="3">6/22/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$500 + $40
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">12,500
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Mon
</td><td colspan="3">6/23/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Tues
</td><td colspan="3">6/24/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Tues
</td><td colspan="3">6/24/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">Limit / 3:00 PM
</td><td colspan="3">2,500
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Wed
</td><td colspan="3">6/25/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Thurs
</td><td colspan="3">6/26/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Fri
</td><td colspan="3">6/27/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Sat
</td><td colspan="3">6/28/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Sun
</td><td colspan="3">6/29/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$500 + $40
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">12,500
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Mon
</td><td colspan="3">6/30/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Tues
</td><td colspan="3">7/1/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Wed
</td><td colspan="3">7/2/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Thurs
</td><td colspan="3">7/3/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Fri
</td><td colspan="3">7/4/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Sat
</td><td colspan="3">7/5/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$300 + $30
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">10,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td>Sun
</td><td colspan="3">7/6/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$500 + $40
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">12,500
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">
Mon
</td><td colspan="3">
7/7/2008
</td><td colspan="3">
$1000 + $60
</td><td colspan="3">
Mega Championship / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="2">25,000
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="3">
Tues
</td><td colspan="3">
7/8/2008
</td><td colspan="4">
Day Two
</td><td colspan="3">
No limit / 2:00 PM
</td></tr><tr><td>Tues
</td><td colspan="3">
7/8/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="3">
Wed
</td><td colspan="3">
7/9/2008
</td><td colspan="4">
Final Table
</td><td colspan="3">
No Limit / 2:00 PM
</td></tr><tr><td>Wed
</td><td colspan="3">7/9/2008
</td><td colspan="3">$200 + $25
</td><td colspan="2">No Limit / 12:00 Noon
</td><td colspan="3">5,000
</td><td>$10 / 2,500 Chips
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="13">
Additional Daily Tournaments - $65- 9am / $150- 7pm / $120- 11pm.
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="13">Registration for Mega Stack Series start everyday at 10:00am.
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="13">Staff Bonus Chips are optional and must be purchased at time of registration. Three percent of total prize pool will be witheld for poker staff.
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="13">Blind Levels 50 Minuite / Mega Championship 60 Minuite. Must be 21 years or older to enter.
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="13">Caesars Palace Poker Room Rules apply. Caesars Palace Management reserves the right to change, modify or cancel tournaments.
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I agree the WSOP is getting bad for big buy in events. . . . short stacked for 1500 bucks sucks. Anyway, I emailed the guy from Caesars just to get blind structures and their sheets are totally different from what is posted here and on the website
225 events are 5000 chips as posted but it says 40 minute levels
335 events are 6000 chips not 10,000 big difference and its 40 minute levels
540s are 7000 chips i believe and 40 minute levels still--so I'm thinking you may want to check in at the venetian--i played those last year and they were excellent structures. . . .









