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  1. LiquidSw0rd LiquidSw0rd is offline

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    Jul 23rd, 2011 (7/23/2011 11:01pm) in reply to double_kyan

    In my experience, a lot of people especially live don't know exactly how many big blinds they have left and what they are supposed to do with that, so when they see that they are far below the average stack when its very deep, they feel like super short and sometimes shove 15 or 20 bbs like if it was only 5 ! i seen that kind of stuff a lot especially live.

    so i think that when we face shoves from unexperienced people we really should factor that, because they just don't play like us. nobody remember bigdogpckt5's live hand where a guy open shoved like 35 bbs from the SB with 42o or something into his pocket aces ? (i think he even slowrolled the poor guy like it wasn't fun enough! haha)
     
  2. bigpimpin777 bigpimpin777 is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2011 (7/24/2011 5:51am) in reply to FenwayKing

    100% fold
    The Main Event will offer way better spots just a few minutes/levels down the road
     
  3. SigmaBetaRho SigmaBetaRho is offline

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    Aug 1st, 2011 (8/1/2011 4:12am) in reply to norv

    i would love to hear the explanation from you or your friend on how this could possibly be considered a call.
  4. Etrain99 Etrain99 is offline

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    Aug 1st, 2011 (8/1/2011 5:10am) in reply to Scarypooper

     
    Originally Posted by Scarypooper View Post

    If you have a large edge in live poker you should be passing on minor +ev spots, so you should factor that in as well. Especially when considering people just don't push as light live with short stacks. He would need to be jamming super wide for this to be a call and given that most people just don't jam wide live it seems like it isn't even close.

    If the guy is middle aged it isn't even close, don't even think about it. If you don't have a read on him to this point, it's because he hasn't played a hand. I probably sigh fold KQ to a middle aged guy shoving 16 BBs.

    I was thinking this.
  5. Spraggs Spraggs is offline

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    Aug 1st, 2011 (8/1/2011 2:58pm) in reply to LiquidSw0rd

    I'm folding in both main event and online. without a read. (leak?)

    The range given by someone in stove, considering this middle aged player is a rando, is far too wide imo.
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