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WTF River spot in Sunday 1/4 Mill

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  1. VagabondV VagabondV is offline

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    May 2nd, 2010 (5/2/2010 5:12pm)

    The player hadnt shown down many hands, but the ones he did show down were either monsters or hands that were good for his position relative to the blinds.
    EZ fold or call and high 5 the monitor?

    pokerstars Game #43509987297: Tournament #308010003, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2010/05/02 16:52:55 ET
    Table '308010003 1263' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: ourpappy (7720 in chips)
    Seat 2: riderat63 (2950 in chips)
    Seat 3: ramses31 (5480 in chips)
    Seat 4: magrite (4750 in chips)
    Seat 5: bigjbecker (6912 in chips)
    Seat 6: VagabondV (8755 in chips)
    Seat 7: ely2424 (10850 in chips)
    Seat 8: sabs56 (4788 in chips)
    Seat 9: Robbo1112 (2415 in chips)
    ourpappy: posts the ante 25
    riderat63: posts the ante 25
    ramses31: posts the ante 25
    magrite: posts the ante 25
    bigjbecker: posts the ante 25
    VagabondV: posts the ante 25
    ely2424: posts the ante 25
    sabs56: posts the ante 25
    Robbo1112: posts the ante 25
    ely2424: posts small blind 150
    sabs56: posts big blind 300
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to VagabondV [7s As]
    Robbo1112: folds
    ourpappy: folds
    riderat63: folds
    ramses31: folds
    magrite: calls 300
    bigjbecker: folds
    VagabondV: calls 300
    ely2424: calls 150
    sabs56: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Ac 6h 3h]
    ely2424: checks
    sabs56: checks
    magrite: checks
    VagabondV: bets 600
    ely2424: folds
    sabs56: calls 600
    magrite: calls 600
    *** TURN *** [Ac 6h 3h] [2c]
    sabs56: checks
    magrite: checks
    VagabondV: bets 800 (should I have bet more here?)
    sabs56: calls 800
    magrite: folds
    *** RIVER *** [Ac 6h 3h 2c] [2h]
    sabs56: bets 3063 and is all-in
    VagabondV:

    To me. I think his most likely holdings are:
    1. 2 hearts - Hits flush on river
    2. Ax - I think A6, A3 or A2 could be possible, otherwise A8-AJ
    3. 4x5x - Though I think he would've raised the turn
    4. 66, 33
    5. Air

    Thoughts?
  2. rungoodmuch rungoodmuch is offline

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    May 2nd, 2010 (5/2/2010 5:25pm) in reply to VagabondV

    bet more flop, bet more turn
  3. s.l. halper s.l. halper is offline

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    May 2nd, 2010 (5/2/2010 6:02pm) in reply to rungoodmuch

    Folding pre- is better. The limper does not have enough in his stack for you to limp behind. If you are feeling saucy raise pre-flop.

    Bet/fold flop. The amount is fine.

    Check behind turn.

    As played, fold river.
     
  4. feedthemfish feedthemfish is offline

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    May 2nd, 2010 (5/2/2010 6:32pm) in reply to rungoodmuch

     
    Originally Posted by rungoodmuch View Post

    bet more flop, bet more turn

    This. looks like you let villian get there.

    actually i liked the flop bet but turn definitely needs more.
  5. Decatur217 Decatur217 is offline OTs Iron Man

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    May 2nd, 2010 (5/2/2010 9:09pm) in reply to feedthemfish

    limped the button with Ace suited? gasp
  6. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    May 2nd, 2010 (5/2/2010 10:04pm) in reply to Decatur217

    I think you botched it preflop.

    Raise that stupid limper. You crush his limp range and have a hand you'd normally button raise in that spot with anyway.

    Don't be passive. In that thing the limper will call you and chk/fold on the flop to your cbet most of the time anyway, even on that stack.

    Just don't play so passive...
     
  7. s.l. halper s.l. halper is offline

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    May 2nd, 2010 (5/2/2010 10:13pm) in reply to Decatur217

     
    Originally Posted by Decatur217 View Post

    limped the button with Ace suited? gasp

    With antes, and particularly in this tourney, it isn't really a good play. This is an easy tourney to play for stacks and control it but this spot isn't juicy enough IMO. At the very least OP should be doing it in spots where original limper has a bigger stack and hopefully has OP covered. In this exact spot I'd prefer a raise/fold or open fold.
     
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