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wtf should I do here? hand in 100r vs sctrojans and lilholdem

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  1. rusostreet rusostreet is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:14pm)

    I know sc has a hand but I don't know wtf I should do here.....please help

    pokerstars Game #25579916777: Tournament #144063733, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2009/03/03 22:05:17 ET
    Table '144063733 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: rivermanl (7576 in chips)
    Seat 2: SCTrojans (20649 in chips)
    Seat 3: rusostreet (14645 in chips)
    Seat 4: JP 5-time (6830 in chips)
    Seat 5: kobsame (4500 in chips)
    Seat 6: mozitas (7123 in chips)
    Seat 7: LockdownTex (5161 in chips)
    Seat 8: SLOPPYKLOD (22581 in chips)
    Seat 9: lilholdem954 (20855 in chips)
    rivermanl: posts the ante 25
    SCTrojans: posts the ante 25
    rusostreet: posts the ante 25
    JP 5-time: posts the ante 25
    kobsame: posts the ante 25
    mozitas: posts the ante 25
    LockdownTex: posts the ante 25
    SLOPPYKLOD: posts the ante 25
    lilholdem954: posts the ante 25
    SCTrojans: posts small blind 150
    rusostreet: posts big blind 300
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to rusostreet [As Kh]
    JP 5-time: folds
    kobsame: folds
    mozitas: folds
    LockdownTex: folds
    SLOPPYKLOD: folds
    lilholdem954: raises 466 to 766
    rivermanl: folds
    SCTrojans: raises 1658 to 2424
    rusostreet: raises 12196 to 14620 and is all-in
    lilholdem954: folds
    SCTrojans: calls 12196
    *** FLOP *** [2c 7d 9c]
    *** TURN *** [2c 7d 9c] [Qs]
    rusostreet said, "nh"
    *** RIVER *** [2c 7d 9c Qs] [9d]
    rusostreet said, "gg"
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    SCTrojans: shows [Js Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
    rusostreet: shows [As Kh] (a pair of Nines)
    SCTrojans collected 30231 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 30231 | Rake 0
    Board [2c 7d 9c Qs 9d]
    Seat 1: rivermanl (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: SCTrojans (small blind) showed [Js Jd] and won (30231) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
    Seat 3: rusostreet (big blind) showed [As Kh] and lost with a pair of Nines
    Seat 4: JP 5-time folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: kobsame folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: mozitas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: LockdownTex folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: SLOPPYKLOD folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: lilholdem954 folded before Flop

    Standard gg, ul? or what...thanks for the help
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  2. chicagocards1 chicagocards1 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:16pm) in reply to rusostreet

    seems u lost a race
  3. vats12 vats12 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:17pm) in reply to rusostreet

    pretty standard to brick the flip when u need it
     
  4. jordankickz jordankickz is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:17pm) in reply to rusostreet

    man such a tough spot
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  5. rusostreet rusostreet is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:19pm) in reply to vats12

    Okay, I guess I know this is pretty standard and prob a dumb post, esp, in the 100r where I need to gamble more but......can anyone ever justify a fold here....ever?
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  6. charder charder is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:22pm) in reply to rusostreet

     
    Originally Posted by rusostreet View Post

    Okay, I guess I know this is pretty standard and prob a dumb post, esp, in the 100r where I need to gamble more but......can anyone ever justify a fold here....ever?

    not against said opponents.
     
  7. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:25pm) in reply to charder

    If SCT is only raising like top 5% of hands here against an obv LAG open then yes I'd fold...Otherwise I'd prolly min raise it...ha. Only you determine whether or not you want to flip for ur mtt life.
  8. Leet8s Leet8s is offline usausausausausa

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:25pm) in reply to jordankickz

     
    Originally Posted by jordankickz View Post

    man such a tough spot

    didn't lol
     
  9. JBT449 JBT449 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:32pm) in reply to rusostreet

    " I know sc has a hand "

    You def don't "know" this... look how deep you guys are. ul
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  10. rusostreet rusostreet is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:38pm) in reply to JBT449

    ur wrong.... I do know this. What good is it for sc to reraise oop this deep against chad. Im sure hes just buliding the pot. Alot of value in this raise w/ out a hand. come on dude...
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  11. canad010 canad010 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:40pm) in reply to JBT449

    is it just me, or is that not a standard call for SC he has nearly 50BB at the beginning of the hand, and he is not getting proper odds especially considering the only hand his opponent has that he beats is AK

    I think the shove with AK is standard but the all in call of a cold 4bet is questionable.

    thoughts??
  12. DFish DFish is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:40pm) in reply to rusostreet

    cmon mike... cmonnnn

    only thing u could do different is just make it 6200 trying to look stronger which prob wont work but other than that not sure what yer looking for here
     
  13. rusostreet rusostreet is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:42pm) in reply to DFish

    ur right d, im not sure either, stupid posts ftw.... Im just thinkin to much

    but, heres a question, what is scotts range here then?????
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  14. JBT449 JBT449 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:42pm) in reply to rusostreet

     
    Originally Posted by rusostreet View Post

    ur wrong.... I do know this. What good is it for sc to reraise oop this deep against chad. Im sure hes just buliding the pot. Alot of value in this raise w/ out a hand. come on dude...

    lol, my bad dude sorry for posting in your thread.
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  15. rusostreet rusostreet is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:44pm) in reply to JBT449

    Im sry jbt, you may be right. I just don't know how u can tell me what I know and what I don't know. I may not have knownnnnnnn it, but I was 90% sure given the circumstances. Thanks for posting, and Im sry again.
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  16. Goal4Ziggy Goal4Ziggy is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:47pm) in reply to rusostreet

    what you're trying to do here isn't working...
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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 9:59pm) in reply to Goal4Ziggy

    i dont take credit for saying this but only if scott is never 3bet/folding here would this shove not be profitable.
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  18. TiltinShoes TiltinShoes is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:00pm) in reply to rusostreet

    Pray the tables breaks soon...
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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:06pm) in reply to rusostreet

     
    Originally Posted by rusostreet View Post

    Im sry jbt, you may be right. I just don't know how u can tell me what I know and what I don't know. I may not have knownnnnnnn it, but I was 90% sure given the circumstances. Thanks for posting, and Im sry again.

    10% is an awful lot when you consider the size of the pot in relation to your stack.
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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:06pm) in reply to doubledave22

    f both
     
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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:07pm) in reply to inissint

    yay for image posts
     
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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:10pm) in reply to rusostreet

    I think im happy to get it in here.
     
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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:11pm) in reply to rusostreet

    ya jbt shut it.
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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:12pm) in reply to bfineman

    What's going on here?
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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:14pm) in reply to rusostreet

    ummmm..... is this for real?
     
  26. rusostreet rusostreet is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:17pm) in reply to bfineman

    loooooooooooool @ this whole post. sorry I ever made it. Just trying to think outside the box. Obv I do the same as you guys just wanted to see if everyone plays the same.
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  27. the_schmenx the_schmenx is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:25pm) in reply to rusostreet

    8500 and see 5 cards if you get shoved on or called, looks stronger and you may get SCT to fold 99-JJ rather than telegraphing your AK.

    Also, I don't think he has to have a hand to 3 bet lil.
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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:28pm) in reply to the_schmenx

     
    Originally Posted by the_schmenx View Post

    8500 and see 5 cards if you get shoved on or called, looks stronger and you may get SCT to fold 99-JJ rather than telegraphing your AK.

    Also, I don't think he has to have a hand to 3 bet lil.

    agree here, except i make it 5-6k and obv not folding to a shove
     
  29. -BlackFours- -BlackFours- is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 10:31pm) in reply to rusostreet

    standard
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  30. watson5j watson5j is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2009 (3/3/2009 11:13pm) in reply to -BlackFours-

    AK is the nizzies right?? Ruso, if ur confused, I'm confused...I could def see SCT 3-betting a lot more with ATC if he was in position...him 3 betting out of position makes me think, like you, that he has a hand...fwiw, never really played with SCT, is my thinking flawed here?
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