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Alright 4th hand into the Bodog 5k tonight, only a $10 tourny so a lot of weak players. Never sat with 2 villains before, I have a limper ahead of me so decide to limp with 67o and see a flop, SB raises, first limper calls, I call as well. I flop 2 pair and then after the betting shown below I wanted to puke, what's youre move here?
<h2>Player Information</h2> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th>Screen
Name</th><th>Seat
Position</th><th>Cards
Dealt</th><th>Start/End
Amount</th></tr><tr><td>kidblacko </td><td>1 </td><td></td><td>$1,470.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Bulldogs_R1 </td><td>2 </td><td></td><td>$1,470.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Bobdarln </td><td>3 </td><td>
</td><td>$3,070.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Dannenmann </td><td>4 </td><td></td><td>$1,500.00
</td></tr><tr><td>ikodub4 </td><td>5 </td><td></td><td>$1,500.00</td></tr><tr><td>ZMan707 </td><td>7 </td><td></td><td>$1,400.00
</td></tr><tr><td>tpapagiorgio </td><td>8 </td><td>
</td><td>$950.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Buzz Lightyear </td><td>9 </td><td>6
h7
s
</td><td>$2,020.00
</td></tr></tbody></table> <h2>Hand Actions</h2> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th>Player</th><th>Action</th><th>Action Data</th><th>Timestamp</th></tr><tr><td>Bulldogs_R1 </td><td>Set dealer/Bring in spot </td><td>2 </td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>Bobdarln </td><td>Ante/Small blind </td><td>$ 10.00 </td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>Dannenmann </td><td>Big blind/Bring in </td><td>$ 20.00 </td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>kidblacko </td><td>Card dealt to a spot </td><td></td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>Bulldogs_R1 </td><td>Card dealt to a spot </td><td></td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>Bobdarln </td><td>Card dealt to a spot </td><td></td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>Dannenmann </td><td>Card dealt to a spot </td><td></td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>ikodub4 </td><td>Card dealt to a spot </td><td></td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>ZMan707 </td><td>Card dealt to a spot </td><td></td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>tpapagiorgio </td><td>Card dealt to a spot </td><td></td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>Buzz Lightyear </td><td>Card dealt to a spot </td><td>6
h7
s </td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>ikodub4 </td><td>Fold </td><td>$ 0.00 </td><td>21:13:48 </td></tr><tr><td>ZMan707 </td><td>Fold </td><td>$ 0.00 </td><td>21:13:53 </td></tr><tr><td>tpapagiorgio </td><td>Call </td><td>$ 20.00 </td><td>21:13:54 </td></tr><tr><td>Buzz Lightyear </td><td>Call </td><td>$ 20.00 </td><td>21:13:55 </td></tr><tr><td>kidblacko </td><td>Fold </td><td>$ 0.00 </td><td>21:13:59 </td></tr><tr><td>Bulldogs_R1 </td><td>Fold </td><td>$ 0.00 </td><td>21:13:59 </td></tr><tr><td>Bobdarln </td><td>Raise </td><td>$ 70.00 </td><td>21:14:04 </td></tr><tr><td>Dannenmann </td><td>Fold </td><td>$ 20.00 </td><td>21:14:08 </td></tr><tr><td>tpapagiorgio </td><td>Call </td><td>$ 60.00 </td><td>21:14:08 </td></tr><tr><td>Buzz Lightyear </td><td>Call </td><td>$ 60.00 </td><td>21:14:12 </td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Betting round completed </td><td>Last active pot = $260.00 </td><td>21:14:12 </td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Card dealt to table </td><td>7
d6
cQ
h </td><td>21:14:12 </td></tr><tr><td>Bobdarln </td><td>Bet </td><td>$ 60.00 </td><td>21:14:18 </td></tr><tr><td>tpapagiorgio </td><td>Call </td><td>$ 60.00 </td><td>21:14:19 </td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Buzz Lightyear </td><td>Raise </td><td>$ 380.00 </td><td>21:14:25 </td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Bobdarln </td><td>Raise </td><td>$ 640.00 </td><td>21:14:28 </td></tr><tr><td>tpapagiorgio </td><td>Call </td><td>$ 640.00 </td><td>21:14:30
</td></tr></tbody></table>
Buzz Lightyear ????
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>Buzz Lightyear </td><td>All-in </td><td>$ 1,560.00 </td><td>21:14:39 </td></tr><tr><td>Bobdarln </td><td>All-in </td><td>$ 2,290.00 </td><td>21:14:42 </td></tr><tr><td>tpapagiorgio </td><td>All-in </td><td>$ 170.00 </td><td>21:14:43 </td></tr><tr><td>Bobdarln </td><td>Return uncalled portion of bet </td><td>$ 1,050.00 </td><td>21:14:43 </td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Betting round completed </td><td>Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 8 = $2,870.00
Side pot 9 = $2,140.00 </td><td>21:14:45 </td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Card dealt to table </td><td>9
c </td><td>21:14:45 </td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Betting round completed </td><td>Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 8 = $2,870.00
Side pot 9 = $2,140.00 </td><td>21:14:47 </td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Card dealt to table </td><td>Q
s </td><td>21:14:47 </td></tr><tr><td></td><td>Betting round completed </td><td>Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 8 = $2,870.00
Side pot 9 = $2,140.00 </td><td>21:14:49 </td></tr><tr><td>Bobdarln </td><td>Showdown </td><td>Show card: Two Pair
K
K
Q
Q
9
</td><td>21:14:49 </td></tr><tr><td>Buzz Lightyear </td><td>Showdown </td><td>Show card: Two Pair
Q
Q
7
7
9
</td><td>21:14:49 </td></tr><tr><td>tpapagiorgio </td><td>Showdown </td><td>Show card: Straight
9
8
7
6
5
</td><td>21:14:49 </td></tr><tr><td>Bobdarln </td><td>Hand result </td><td>$ 2,140.00 </td><td>21:14:49 </td></tr><tr><td>tpapagiorgio </td><td>Hand result </td><td>$ 2,870.00 </td><td>21:14:49 </td></tr></tbody></table>
So they both called, one flipped KK other 85 for the open ender. Turn is 9 for a straight, buts me behind with FH possibility for main pot but still leading 2140 chip side pot, river Q pairing the board to give KK a higher two pair. -
i tried to help...but then my head exploded from trying to read a bodog hh

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Agreed, its easy to read in the Bodog client but miserable to copy and paste, I'm not sure if there is any way to make it more readable.
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Is limping behind another limper that bad a play with 67o? If I miss the flop or only hit one pair I'm out, down 20 or in this case 80, only 4% of my stack but only but if I hit 2 pair or better I'm probably going to win a large pot majority of the time. I wouldn't limp with that late in a tourny but this early in when flops can be seen so cheaply I don't see the problem with it.
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I just think poker hates you...
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The SB raiser hit top pair and the other has some sort of straight draw and more than likely a gutshot.
If he has QQ, he made a bad raise with two limpers who get to bet after him. The bet of 60 into a 260 pot almost guarantees he doesn't have top set or even a set.
GL at the tables! -
This is what I figured, I didn't think either would play QQ like that with a drawing board and 2 other players. I figured one was KK/AA/AQ and the other was maybe 89/AQ or something.
Originally Posted by dynamite d
The SB raiser hit top pair and the other has some sort of straight draw and more than likely a gutshot.
If he has QQ, he made a bad raise with two limpers who get to bet after him. The bet of 60 into a 260 pot almost guarantees he doesn't have top set or even a set.
GL at the tables!
I jammed when it got back to me, posting results in a min when my internet stops blowing. -
Yes, limping behind the limper is bad. The earlier in position you are the worse it is, in this case, it's pretty bad. Limping, and then calling the raise is even worse. There are like 1000 better spots to put 4 BB's in preflop, wait for them.
Originally Posted by DirDirDirty
Is limping behind another limper that bad a play with 67o? If I miss the flop or only hit one pair I'm out, down 20 or in this case 80, only 4% of my stack but only but if I hit 2 pair or better I'm probably going to win a large pot majority of the time. I wouldn't limp with that late in a tourny but this early in when flops can be seen so cheaply I don't see the problem with it.
Even if you do hit two pair or better, you are not necessarily gonna win a large pot a majority of the time. In fact, most of the time you will win a very small pot. Making all the times you limped then folded on the flop not worth it.
Here you finally hit your miracle 2 pair flop, and now you are unsure what to do with it? You absoluely have to put it in. And, then, like I said in my first post, immediately stop limping behind with this hand.
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